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I have the Airlift bumper and brackets, but no nuts and bolts. Need sizes...

juanprado

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Mine also had a safety pin on the bottom on the rest bracket. Home depot sells the wire. I ordered ferules on epay cheap. I used a redneck press- sledge hammer. :)
 

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Mine also had a safety pin on the bottom on the rest bracket. Home depot sells the wire. I ordered ferules on epay cheap. I used a redneck press- sledge hammer. :)
I bought a crimping tool a while back when I was making up ham radio antennas. Spool of stainless wire and ferrules has gotten use elsewhere - to make new retention wires for the "fold-down" window pins, brush guard pins, etc.

What I DON'T have is the little bump on the bottom of the tire carrier. Someone didn't follow the directions, it seems, and it's broken off. I didn't know what the roughly welded bits were for until I printed out the manual. I could probably have a bit welded on, or come up with some other arrangement.

What, exactly, is it(Main Arm Safety Pin) supposed to do? Add a little extra insurance the tire won't bounce up and off the retention bracket and swing out to damage lesser vehicles on the right?

I'll need to measure the piece when I see one, mill one up and take it and the carrier to a local welder.
 

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I bought a crimping tool a while back when I was making up ham radio antennas. Spool of stainless wire and ferrules has gotten use elsewhere - to make new retention wires for the "fold-down" window pins, brush guard pins, etc.

What I DON'T have is the little bump on the bottom of the tire carrier. Someone didn't follow the directions, it seems, and it's broken off. I didn't know what the roughly welded bits were for until I printed out the manual. I could probably have a bit welded on, or come up with some other arrangement.

What, exactly, is it(Main Arm Safety Pin) supposed to do? Add a little extra insurance the tire won't bounce up and off the retention bracket and swing out to damage lesser vehicles on the right?

I'll need to measure the piece when I see one, mill one up and take it and the carrier to a local welder.
I think you have it right as extra insurance. I don't think it can move much anyway. I had a oh duh moment the first time I went to open the tailgate a few weeks after install and started ratcheting without removing the pin. Lets say the ratchet is stronger than the pin. I just thought my ratchet was stiff and not lubed all the way and I preztled the pin. Cut if off and beat it out. Turns out ratchet was lubed pretty good after all :) Not one of my finest moments......

I can take close up pics if you would like?
 

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You sure got busy on that project Norm. Looks really good. Inspiring me to get mine done.
Thanks, Lionel.

Sure was fun. I had some time off last week and it seemed like the time to get it done.

Quick question: does the OTHER Rhino carrier have the metal tab on the BOTTOM for the arm safety pin? The pin that goes into the retaining bracket?

Not blaming you or casting aspersions, I didn't know much more about this before I bought it other than I really wanted one (I feel more comfortable driving Maryland roads with a SPARE, you know?), but the tab's missing on mine.

Thinking if I can get exact dimensions I can mill one and weld or bolt it on (why not, welds already broke, a 3/8" tapped hole isn't likely to significantly weaken the metal).

Thanks again.
 

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Not at all Norm, I never noticed either but when I looked after reading your post, its gone on the other one also. I wonder if it has something to do with the pintle extension since both are missing. If you remember, I gave you the new arm rest because both of the originals were clipped through the bottom bolt hole. Again, presumably due to the pintle extension, but I'm just speculating. Of course if you want to return it, I have no issue with that at all.
 

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Return? Not, not my intent at all, Lionel. I got a feeling this part is going to be missing on a LOT of the arms - seems to be easily sheered off from my eye.
 

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No troubles Norm, just wanted to extend the offer. Of course I'll be looking for the dimensions now as well. Best, L :-D
 

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I think you have it right as extra insurance. I don't think it can move much anyway. I had a oh duh moment the first time I went to open the tailgate a few weeks after install and started ratcheting without removing the pin. Lets say the ratchet is stronger than the pin. I just thought my ratchet was stiff and not lubed all the way and I preztled the pin. Cut if off and beat it out. Turns out ratchet was lubed pretty good after all :) Not one of my finest moments......

I can take close up pics if you would like?
I watched this happen in-person. A local was showing me his HMMWV and I asked him how the ratcheting mechanism worked. It was going very well, then suddenly wasn't...and we tried a little harder. ...then we both felt real bad when we realized that the retaining pin was now a really neat s-shape and we couldn't bend it back to remove it. I told him I could run and get a cutoff wheel, and he told me no need...
 

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That could be it. The pintle extension. I remember reading something here or on G503 on that, I think from Greg 86Humv that to use a pintle extension with tire carrier required a MOD.
 

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That could be it. The pintle extension. I remember reading something here or on G503 on that, I think from Greg 86Humv that to use a pintle extension with tire carrier required a MOD.
And that MOD required knocking the bottom piece off?

Could be. I have an extension I was going to keep on hand just in case, I'll take a look at it and see what the clearances are like.
 
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