Gov Planet HMMWV Refugee

[sail78385]

A couple of weeks ago, I purchased an M1101 trailer, and since then, things have escalated a bit. I decided I needed a Humvee as well. My only criteria were that it had to be clean, ideally a troop carrier, and I wanted to keep the initial investment as low as possible. I came close to buying a really nice M1123 in Miami but ultimately bid on another M1123 on GovPlanet—and I won!

There’s something exciting and mysterious about buying a vehicle directly from surplus, and I’m pretty pumped about it. I accomplished my goal, but with a catch—I bought a non-running unit. The odometer shows just 322 miles, and judging by the truck’s condition, I believe that’s accurate. However, the intake manifold is off, and the odds are against me, so I’m almost certain I’ll need to replace the engine.

Here’s where I’m torn: a replacement engine is expensive. On the other hand, swapping in an LS motor might not cost much more—maybe a few thousand dollars difference if I go for an LQ9 with the Humvee’s 4L80 transmission. I keep going back and forth on what to do. I don’t want to sink a ton of money into this project, but I’d love to have it road-ready by Christmas for some local parades.

Maybe someone out there has a good 6.5 NA engine they’d like to get rid of? Still waiting to pick up the truck—hopefully, I can get it in about a month and set it free!

Stay tuned!

 

[NDT]

Cheapest option is to rebuild what you have. You might only have to sleeve a few cyl bores due to rust pitting. Bottom end should be ok. Nice clean truck you ended up with.

 

[Mogman]

My vote is for anything but the Detroit
Depending on what you want to do, if all you want is to cruise the back roads then a Detroit will do.
I would think a good pull out would be the cheapest given the cost of parts and machine work, not to mention not allot of folks have the equipment and or capable of doing a full rebuild.

You would of course include a quality IP rebuild and new injectors, that's $1200-1500, you can get a good running take out GEP for around $3000
The fact your engine is painted black (including IP) says it was likely a Melton rebuild so it is not surprising it is kaput.

DAMN NICE TRUCK!!!

 

[Jinx]

Maybe someone out there has a good 6.5 NA engine they’d like to get rid of? Still waiting to pick up the truck—hopefully, I can get it in about a month and set it free!

More like 2 months to clear if it was a Marines truck. I just got a parts M1123 also with the intake manifold removed and that's how long it took.

 

[gem1410]

Good luck--Looks like a great project

 

[sail78385]

In route to a work project that was canceled due to the pending hurricane I detoured to the GovPlanet facility that has my truck. I asked if I could see it in person, even though I don’t have my release papers. They had no problem and took me to see it. Really nice folks there. Apparently my truck is a 2003 model and on the engine is a MTP decal. They let me put some tape over the open intake ports -some bad weather headed this way I figured that would be smart. Glad I got to check it out and learn a little more about their operation.

 

[sail78385]

While I was there I noticed that it looked like there was some green spray paint over some markings on the tailgate. Obviously there is a portion on the tailgate that says USMC and the registration number, but just above that there was something they painted Green paint over and Ive got no idea. Do y'all think some acetone will pull the green paint off good enough to tell? Or is there any other method I should give a shot when the time comes?

 

[Mullaney]

While I was there I noticed that it looked like there was some green spray paint over some markings on the tailgate. Obviously there is a portion on the tailgate that says USMC and the registration number, but just above that there was something they painted Green paint over and Ive got no idea. Do y'all think some acetone will pull the green paint off good enough to tell? Or is there any other method I should give a shot when the time comes?

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Depending on how long since it was sprayed, acetone might work. Lightly sanding with a fine grit paper will pull off the overpaint. It won't be perfect but you could read it for sure.

 

[HoveringHMMWV]

While I was there I noticed that it looked like there was some green spray paint over some markings on the tailgate. Obviously there is a portion on the tailgate that says USMC and the registration number, but just above that there was something they painted Green paint over and Ive got no idea. Do y'all think some acetone will pull the green paint off good enough to tell? Or is there any other method I should give a shot when the time comes?

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By accident, I found out that spraying Simple Green and then softly rubbing with a Scotch-Brite pad will remove spray paint over CARC. At least enough to read what’s underneath.

 

[sail78385]

By accident, I found out that spraying Simple Green and then softly rubbing with a Scotch-Brite pad will remove spray paint over CARC. At least enough to read what’s underneath.

Ill give that a shot when I get it home. I wonder if doing that to the whole truck would clean it up?

 

[NDT]

MTP is a highly regarded remanufacturing outfit from Many, LA.

My 6.2 had water in it when i got it, for many months. I only had to sleeve one hole due to pits and most everything cleaned up.

 

[sail78385]

I was able to rescue my GovPlanet Refugee M1123 on Tuesday and then proceeded to head off to Thanksgiving. Upon my return today was able to spend a little time with the Humvee and today will forever be the day of surprises. I was able to remove some paint and reveal the RUC numbers and learned that this m1123 belonged to the Third Civil Affairs group in Great Lakes, IL. Unfortunately I also learned upon inspection that the glow plugs were missing, the engine had no oil in it, the oil pan had a few bolts holding it on and lastly there is a hole in each side of the engine oil pan. I will remove the oil pan tomorrow, but highly suspect a bad rod. The engine on this machine is toast unfortunately and now I guess I have to figure out the best course of action to get it driving again. I honestly was hoping for the best with this and I also believe that GovPlanet manipulated the listing in their favor. They identified that components from the fuel system were missing, which the fuel pump is, and it so happens that one of the holes is close enough to where someone noticing that the fuel pump was gone would have also seen the hole. Stay tuned as I figure out how to get this back on the road. I’m unsure if Ironclad will be of any benefit… anyways enjoy the photos!

 

[NDT]

Engine block might still be ok. Pull it and tear it down looking closely for cracks. I rebuilt a GMC 302 that threw a rod, block skirt has a booboo where the rod end whacked it but otherwise it runs great.

 

[Lawdog734]

I was able to rescue my GovPlanet Refugee M1123 on Tuesday and then proceeded to head off to Thanksgiving. Upon my return today was able to spend a little time with the Humvee and today will forever be the day of surprises. I was able to remove some paint and reveal the RUC numbers and learned that this m1123 belonged to the Third Civil Affairs group in Great Lakes, IL. Unfortunately I also learned upon inspection that the glow plugs were missing, the engine had no oil in it, the oil pan had a few bolts holding it on and lastly there is a hole in each side of the engine oil pan. I will remove the oil pan tomorrow, but highly suspect a bad rod. The engine on this machine is toast unfortunately and now I guess I have to figure out the best course of action to get it driving again. I honestly was hoping for the best with this and I also believe that GovPlanet manipulated the listing in their favor. They identified that components from the fuel system were missing, which the fuel pump is, and it so happens that one of the holes is close enough to where someone noticing that the fuel pump was gone would have also seen the hole. Stay tuned as I figure out how to get this back on the road. I’m unsure if Ironclad will be of any benefit… anyways enjoy the photos!

You sure about that unit? I see M01146 is the Marine Tactical Air Control Squadron-48 (MTACS 4 of the 4th Marine Amphibious Wing in Great Lakes.

 

[sail78385]

You sure about that unit? I see M01146 is the Marine Tactical Air Control Squadron-48 (MTACS 4 of the 4th Marine Amphibious Wing in Great Lakes.

You might be right, the number on the winch plate has me thrown off, can a vehicle have 2 RUC numbers? M20192 comes back to 3rd Civil Affairs and I found part of their logo in the truck. I wish I could find all the info on this truck so that the history stays with it.

 

[flyfishtrailer]

There is also always the chance that this was a perfectly good truck that was not in service but was scavenged for parts to fix the ones they had to keep moving. Maybe pull of an oil pan and throw the one from the really broken unit back on to cover their tracks?? Hopefully you will get it roadworthy soon

 

[Mogman]

I was able to rescue my GovPlanet Refugee M1123 on Tuesday and then proceeded to head off to Thanksgiving. Upon my return today was able to spend a little time with the Humvee and today will forever be the day of surprises. I was able to remove some paint and reveal the RUC numbers and learned that this m1123 belonged to the Third Civil Affairs group in Great Lakes, IL. Unfortunately I also learned upon inspection that the glow plugs were missing, the engine had no oil in it, the oil pan had a few bolts holding it on and lastly there is a hole in each side of the engine oil pan. I will remove the oil pan tomorrow, but highly suspect a bad rod. The engine on this machine is toast unfortunately and now I guess I have to figure out the best course of action to get it driving again. I honestly was hoping for the best with this and I also believe that GovPlanet manipulated the listing in their favor. They identified that components from the fuel system were missing, which the fuel pump is, and it so happens that one of the holes is close enough to where someone noticing that the fuel pump was gone would have also seen the hole. Stay tuned as I figure out how to get this back on the road. I’m unsure if Ironclad will be of any benefit… anyways enjoy the photos! View attachment 936587View attachment 936588View attachment 936589View attachment 936590View attachment 936591View attachment 936592View attachment 936593
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You have a bunch of redundant photos posted, you should go and edit them out.

 

[Mogman]

There is also always the chance that this was a perfectly good truck that was not in service but was scavenged for parts to fix the ones they had to keep moving. Maybe pull of an oil pan and throw the one from the really broken unit back on to cover their tracks?? Hopefully you will get it roadworthy soon

Since the starter was not pulled it is unlikely they got the pan off.
It is possible someone just needed some pan screws.

 

[NDT]

Y'all are missing the sin here. I think this was a MTP warranty case.

 

[Mogman]

Y'all are missing the sin here. I think this was a MTP warranty case.

Yep, missed that