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Getting LMTV from Hawaii

GeneralDisorder

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I was 52D (91D now), but attached to Motorpool so most time was spent on trucks.

62A..... Just went through the Hospice experience with my mom. Hats off to your sir! I can't imagine the things you have seen. Thank you for what you do.

The high pinion appears to just be a different third member so swapping over to it should be no different than swapping the third member "chunk" over to "highway" gears. Just a lot heavier. The high pinion is literally the center differential third member from the 6x6 with the output for the rear axle deleted from the factory and a spool in place of the power divider differential.

The difficulty is going to be finding one. At least for the moment. Eventually they will be common since all the A1P2's use them.

It also (unfortunately) uses a different length driveshaft. Several inches shorter.
 

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I was 52D (91D now), but attached to Motorpool so most time was spent on trucks.

62A..... Just went through the Hospice experience with my mom. Hats off to your sir! I can't imagine the things you have seen. Thank you for what you do.

The high pinion appears to just be a different third member so swapping over to it should be no different than swapping the third member "chunk" over to "highway" gears. Just a lot heavier. The high pinion is literally the center differential third member from the 6x6 with the output for the rear axle deleted from the factory and a spool in place of the power divider differential.

The difficulty is going to be finding one. At least for the moment. Eventually they will be common since all the A1P2's use them.

It also (unfortunately) uses a different length driveshaft. Several inches shorter.
I’m sorry to hear about your mom. We have a couple palliative care docs that do amazing things helping patients and family members navigate horrible situations.

Of course the driveshaft is a different length. Hopefully it will take a while to find what I need to convert to high pinion. That way I won’t feel bad about the expense of a new / re-tubed driveshaft.
 

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This question gets asked fairly often and I have solid info for you to digest. I'll paste it here.

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It's a challenge to get a truck off the island but doable. If it starts, runs, and doesn't leak fluids you're in good shape but if any issues it will be a struggle. I've got a mechanic and transporter on the island that can look over the truck and move it to the pier, they can also prep it for transport. From there your only two options are RORO for Maston and Pasha. They're the only game in town and they know it but you can get quotes from each and ask them to beat it to get a better rate. They typically return to the mainland empty so they can be hungry for cargo.

There's a lot of little hurdles and timing to be over come but you won't know until your EUC clears, if your truck is operational, and what boat it will be going on before you can plan for those. If your truck decides to have issues during transport it will be a costly as both companies have stopped offering jump starts to vehicles that have dead batteries or they simply don't know/care how to operate. They will tow or pick up with a crane and charge you for you without consent as they are on a schedule. This unfortunately happened to me this last go around and it turns out their dock crew either didn't read the starting instructions I had on the window or didn't care. There was nothing wrong with the vehicle so I hashed it out with them after.

Both Pasha and Maston don't ship dead vehicles. Period. If your truck ends up being a basket case then you're in a pickle as most people who buy a cheap truck then can't get it home end up renting a storage unit on the island for it and "abandoning" it. It's sad.

Now if I haven't scared you off by now I can give you my mechanic's info. Larry xxx-xxx-xxxx. He's a local who likes to laugh and is a decent mechanic. Don't expect him to diagnose electrical issues but he can do batteries, hoses, etc. He is trust worthy but not phone tech savvy so calling him is best. Mention me, (insert name here_, and he should take care of you. He will ask for all the info I mentioned above so he can schedule things.

I hope this helps. If you have any specific questions let me know.
 

Bryteayes

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This question gets asked fairly often and I have solid info for you to digest. I'll paste it here.

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It's a challenge to get a truck off the island but doable. If it starts, runs, and doesn't leak fluids you're in good shape but if any issues it will be a struggle. I've got a mechanic and transporter on the island that can look over the truck and move it to the pier, they can also prep it for transport. From there your only two options are RORO for Maston and Pasha. They're the only game in town and they know it but you can get quotes from each and ask them to beat it to get a better rate. They typically return to the mainland empty so they can be hungry for cargo.

There's a lot of little hurdles and timing to be over come but you won't know until your EUC clears, if your truck is operational, and what boat it will be going on before you can plan for those. If your truck decides to have issues during transport it will be a costly as both companies have stopped offering jump starts to vehicles that have dead batteries or they simply don't know/care how to operate. They will tow or pick up with a crane and charge you for you without consent as they are on a schedule. This unfortunately happened to me this last go around and it turns out their dock crew either didn't read the starting instructions I had on the window or didn't care. There was nothing wrong with the vehicle so I hashed it out with them after.

Both Pasha and Maston don't ship dead vehicles. Period. If your truck ends up being a basket case then you're in a pickle as most people who buy a cheap truck then can't get it home end up renting a storage unit on the island for it and "abandoning" it. It's sad.

Now if I haven't scared you off by now I can give you my mechanic's info. Larry xxx-xxx-xxxx. He's a local who likes to laugh and is a decent mechanic. Don't expect him to diagnose electrical issues but he can do batteries, hoses, etc. He is trust worthy but not phone tech savvy so calling him is best. Mention me, (insert name here_, and he should take care of you. He will ask for all the info I mentioned above so he can schedule things.

I hope this helps. If you have any specific questions let me know.
Please send me Larry’s contact information. Thanks for the help.
 

serpico760

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GD: Speaking as 62A not 91B, what are the advantages of a high pinion? What would it take to convert low pinion to high pinion? Could it be done?
I think it might just be the middle axle from an M1083, with a cap instead of the rear output shaft. But I'm sure there's much more knowledgeable people on here that will tell us exactly what it is
 

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This question gets asked fairly often and I have solid info for you to digest. I'll paste it here.

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It's a challenge to get a truck off the island but doable. If it starts, runs, and doesn't leak fluids you're in good shape but if any issues it will be a struggle. I've got a mechanic and transporter on the island that can look over the truck and move it to the pier, they can also prep it for transport. From there your only two options are RORO for Maston and Pasha. They're the only game in town and they know it but you can get quotes from each and ask them to beat it to get a better rate. They typically return to the mainland empty so they can be hungry for cargo.

There's a lot of little hurdles and timing to be over come but you won't know until your EUC clears, if your truck is operational, and what boat it will be going on before you can plan for those. If your truck decides to have issues during transport it will be a costly as both companies have stopped offering jump starts to vehicles that have dead batteries or they simply don't know/care how to operate. They will tow or pick up with a crane and charge you for you without consent as they are on a schedule. This unfortunately happened to me this last go around and it turns out their dock crew either didn't read the starting instructions I had on the window or didn't care. There was nothing wrong with the vehicle so I hashed it out with them after.

Both Pasha and Maston don't ship dead vehicles. Period. If your truck ends up being a basket case then you're in a pickle as most people who buy a cheap truck then can't get it home end up renting a storage unit on the island for it and "abandoning" it. It's sad.

Now if I haven't scared you off by now I can give you my mechanic's info. Larry xxx-xxx-xxxx. He's a local who likes to laugh and is a decent mechanic. Don't expect him to diagnose electrical issues but he can do batteries, hoses, etc. He is trust worthy but not phone tech savvy so calling him is best. Mention me, (insert name here_, and he should take care of you. He will ask for all the info I mentioned above so he can schedule things.

I hope this helps. If you have any specific questions let me know.
Sounds like a hawaiian vacation is the best bet :) The wife might even sign off on that also.

Not sure why we even buy these things sometimes :rolleyes: as I am fightin another truck shipment and issues in the south.
 

Bryteayes

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Sounds like a hawaiian vacation is the best bet :) The wife might even sign off on that also.

Not sure why we even buy these things sometimes :rolleyes: as I am fightin another truck shipment and issues in the south.
As a matter of fact, I am looking for an Emergency Medicine CME conference in Honolulu for my wife and I to attend. If we happen to stop by and see the truck it will be just a coincidence
 

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The driveshafts are pretty steep on the low pinion rigs(~9 deg). The rear DS is also at maximum length(weight/mass) for that type 16 DS, so raising the rear pinion reduces the DS angle and the resultant force from longitudinal vibrations. At highway speed the low pinion driveshafts are way outside the max allowed RPM on the angle vs RPM graph, so the driveshafts MUST be perfect.

putting on Eco-hubs halves the DS RPM at highway speed, bringing them back into the acceptable range on the graph...
 

Bryteayes

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The driveshafts are pretty steep on the low pinion rigs(~9 deg). The rear DS is also at maximum length(weight/mass) for that type 16 DS, so raising the rear pinion reduces the DS angle and the resultant force from longitudinal vibrations. At highway speed the low pinion driveshafts are way outside the max allowed RPM on the angle vs RPM graph, so the driveshafts MUST be perfect.

putting on Eco-hubs halves the DS RPM at highway speed, bringing them back into the acceptable range on the graph...
I've already put EcoHubs on my 1998 M1079A0. They will be on the 2006 as well.
 

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As someone who lives, drives, camps on the coast in a high wind, salt spray environment where looking at something long enough you will see it rust...a spray bottle and some Ospho are your friend. Looking at that truck, a lot of the rust is surface rust and Ospho will kill that. It will help identify any real cancer issues, but I've seen worse trucks cleaned up pretty.

Good luck !!!
 

Bryteayes

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As someone who lives, drives, camps on the coast in a high wind, salt spray environment where looking at something long enough you will see it rust...a spray bottle and some Ospho are your friend. Looking at that truck, a lot of the rust is surface rust and Ospho will kill that. It will help identify any real cancer issues, but I've seen worse trucks cleaned up pretty.

Good luck !!!
Thanks for the information. Hopefully we will get her cleaned up enough for a road trip to the gulf by the end of spring.
 
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