Oil Sampling and analasys.

[SMOKEWAGON66]

Oil Sampling and analysis.

Taking oil samples and having it analyzed by a laboratory.

Has anyone here ever done this? I want to give a sample of my engine oil to a lab and have it analyzed to see if theres anything going wrong inside the motor without having to tear it apart to look. I think I found some metal filings in the oil (not exactly sure) and Im hoping its nothing. Any info on this would be appreciated. I already took a sample through the AOAP spout on the left side of the engine so....all I'm looking for is laboratories or companies to check out for the actual analysis.

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[doghead]

NAPA

Do an advanced search in the deuce forum for oil sample analysis.

 

[tennmogger]

I've used Blackstone Labs for about 10 years. Probably cut my oil changes to 2/3 what I used to do. At 4 gallons per oil change, that adds up.

IMHO money well spent.

http://www.blackstone-labs.com/

 

[SMOKEWAGON66]

NAPA

Do an advanced search in the deuce forum for oil sample analysis.

...yah i tried searching for oil analysis several different ways. It brought up nothing. No results. Im all for the search button DH, but everytime I do it, it never brings up what I need. Thats why i started this thread.

 

[doghead]

OK, I just posted that because I know we have discussed it a few times. Even posted reports from tests.

 

[doghead]

Ok, I just did exactly what I posted(in post#2) and I got 16 search results. Several threads titles were obviously what you want.

So, reread what I posted and do an advanced search(bottom left of the main page).

 

[doghead]

I just noticed your spelling error in the title. That would be your issue with the search results, I bet! try it spelling it correctly (as I posted).

when in doubt, google the word, and see if it comes up with what you think it should

 

[4x4 Forever]

You really need to start with a baseline for the analysis to be any good. The tests reveal trends of whats happening to your oil. I don't think one test is going to tell you much, unless it is extremely high in metals, meaning bearings and such. We've used analysis for years offshore and we always start with an analysis at the first oil change.

Good Luck finding what you want!

 

[SMOKEWAGON66]

I just noticed your spelling error in the title. That would be your issue with the search results....

Fixed that..thanks. I shall try searching with that too. As you said above I know theres been many issues with search and new thread deal...I really try to search before i post. Im 100% with you on this

You really need to start with a baseline for the analysis to be any good. The tests reveal trends of whats happening to your oil. I don't think one test is going to tell you much, unless it is extremely high in metals, meaning bearings and such. We've used analysis for years offshore and we always start with an analysis at the first oil change.

Good Luck finding what you want!

Yes, I know there should be a good baseline to start on with these things, and I wish I had started it long ago....but the issue is, I think I see metal in the oil, so I just want a reading on how much metal there is, and what kinds of metals. I will more then likely do another sample after the next OC as well so...we shall see what becomes of it. Thanks.

 

[plym49]

Coincidentally, I just did my first oil change on my Deuce and I took an oil sample for testing. I was going to get the NAPA kit but my local guy had to order it. I found that I could get oil test kits from Amazon for under $6.00 each with free shipping (I have Amazon Prime). The kits arrived no problem, I took a clean catch sample and the I will be sending the sample off this week.

 

[therealsundance]

http://gulfcoastfilters.com/

Never change your oil again.

 

[cranetruck]

You really need to start with a baseline for the analysis to be any good. The tests reveal trends of whats happening to your oil. I don't think one test is going to tell you much, unless it is extremely high in metals, meaning bearings and such. We've used analysis for years offshore and we always start with an analysis at the first oil change.

Good Luck finding what you want!

True, but like you suggest, abnormalities don't need a baseline for comparison. Coolant, fuel or excessive amounts of soot in the oil can be included.
I have used the NAPA kit several times.

PS. If you want good results when searching, use Google and add "steelsoldiers" to your keywords.

 

[jasonjc]

WIX's has a kit #24077, it gets you a sample bottle and a mailer to send it off to the lab. The cost of the kit includes the lab fees.

 

[fuzzytoaster]

Blackstone Labs has been the way to go with me. They send me free kits so I'm not sure why yall bother buying them from NAPA or amazon. Just request a few kits from them.

 

[jstier]

Blackstone Labs has been the way to go with me. They send me free kits so I'm not sure why yall bother buying them from NAPA or amazon. Just request a few kits from them.

Is that Blackstone Labs in Fort Wayne IN?

One of my steel Mill customers use them all the time.

 

[AceHigh]

Blackstone Labs has been the way to go with me. They send me free kits so I'm not sure why yall bother buying them from NAPA or amazon. Just request a few kits from them.

The NAPA cost is the total cost for the service, not the price of the stuff in the kit.

 

[cluless]

A subject I know a little about. This is how the test is done. First I am suprised that they don't want a virgin sample of the oil you use. That is the baseline. They take the virgin sample and your sample from the crankcase and dilute them with xylene. They frist run the virgin sample to see what is in the sample. The instrument that is usaully used is called an inductively couple slasma spectrometer. After they have the metals results from the virgin oil, they then run the crankcase oil. The results are usually reported in parts per million or in some cases parts per billion. As time goes on and the engine wears the metal results will climb. Most oil companies have limits to these results and will pull the engine before it blows.

 

[plym49]

A subject I know a little about. This is how the test is done. First I am suprised that they don't want a virgin sample of the oil you use. That is the baseline. They take the virgin sample and your sample from the crankcase and dilute them with xylene. They frist run the virgin sample to see what is in the sample. The instrument that is usaully used is called an inductively couple slasma spectrometer. After they have the metals results from the virgin oil, they then run the crankcase oil. The results are usually reported in parts per million or in some cases parts per billion. As time goes on and the engine wears the metal results will climb. Most oil companies have limits to these results and will pull the engine before it blows.

When you submit the sample, you also fill out a form. The questions include what type of oil was in there. I suppose that they use this information as part of their baseline since the lab probably has all the baseline samples they would ever need.

 

[plym49]

WIX's has a kit #24077, it gets you a sample bottle and a mailer to send it off to the lab. The cost of the kit includes the lab fees.

That's the one I got from Amazon - something like $5.77 each and, as stated somewhere else, that is a total price. So either the kit is free and the charge is for the test, or vice versa, whatever floats your boat.

 

[SMOKEWAGON66]

Thanks for all the ideas fella's....thats why i love this site lol....