5 Ton Multi power steering

[booger]

I think I remember reading "it's too big" and "it can't be done". What about the type of power steering that sits on top of the frame, behind the axle, with only the drag link and bell crank on the outside of the frame? I didn't have a camera to take pictures of it. looks like an early 5 ton with a multi motor. Any body try to use this type of power steering on a M35 bobber ?

Thanks,
Greg

 

[m-35tom]

it is really big , but why don't you get one and try it to see if it will fit? personally i think there are easier ways to do it.

tom

 

[patracy]

Tom has a nice kit for power steering. Pretty straight forward and a great price for what you get.

 

[booger]

it is really big , but why don't you get one and try it to see if it will fit? personally i think there are easier ways to do it.

tom

I do have one and I am going to try it. I was fishing for anyone that may have tried it and run into an issue. I haven't had the trucks side by side yet but if it will bolt to the M35 frame in the same manner it's bolted to the 5 ton, it looks like a piece of cake...and that's a big IF

 

[booger]

Tom has a nice kit for power steering. Pretty straight forward and a great price for what you get.

I've watched him develop his kit. Great job, great price. A steering box on the outside of the frame rail won't work with 53's. The tire will hit the box on a right hand turn.

 

[m-35tom]

i 'think' for an early 5 ton i.e. a m-52 etc, you would have to have a drag like going up front and a relay arm with another drag link going back to the axle. the actual pitman shaft looks like it would be almost on top of the axle assy. for 53's you just need custom wheels with enough offset, then no problem.

tom

 

[Squirt-Truck]

Frame attachment for the 5-ton is taller than the 2-1/2 ton frame, will take some mods there and you will need the forward bell crank. Otherwise, that will be a LOT of steering gear for a deuce...

 

[booger]

Frame attachment for the 5-ton is taller than the 2-1/2 ton frame, will take some mods there and you will need the forward bell crank. Otherwise, that will be a LOT of steering gear for a deuce...

I managed to get the whole enchilada, bell crank, drag links, tie rods, box, pump, lines, steering wheel, frame, front axle, everything. A LOT of steering gear is what I need for these big a** 53's.

I guess I'm wondering why it hasn't been done already.

 

[deathrowdave]

I was going to use a five ton box also but turning right was going to be a major pain !!!!

 

[booger]

I was going to use a five ton box also but turning right was going to be a major pain !!!!

I think your referring to the box that bolts on to the outside of the frame.

This one ( early one? ) sits on top of the frame rail and looks like it has as much tire clearance as the stock set up.

 

[Heath_h49008]

How common, and how expensive are those boxes?

The system put together by Gringletaube seems to be the best option for achieving the goals you describe for those not fortunate enough to have found your trove of 5 ton parts. Search for it and have a look.

 

[goldneagle]

If you have to spend almost $3k on the kit wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy a 5 ton already and save all the trouble?

 

[deathrowdave]

You are correct !!!! I was thinking of the second design of steering on a 5 ton . The first design should be able to be adapted . A lot of moving parts to find a home for . But it should work fine.

 

[JasonS]

A LOT of steering gear is what I need for these big a** 53's.

Maybe you are better off with an HF54 which mounts inside the frame and a slave cylinder on the tie rod.

 

[booger]

How common, and how expensive are those boxes?

The system put together by Gringletaube seems to be the best option for achieving the goals you describe for those not fortunate enough to have found your trove of 5 ton parts. Search for it and have a look.

I'm not sure how common or expensive the early 5 ton steering box is, I've never seen one before. I was snooping around for dash parts for my 58 GMC LCF and I noticed the drivers side fender was missing on this old 5 ton . The steering box was staring me in the face. It looked like it might work, I asked how much for the whole steering assembly and he said he wouldn't sell parts off of it but if I would tow the whole truck away, I could have it. So the price is right, IF I can make it work.

 

[booger]

here's a shot of the box

 

[BackWoodsDrifter]

Wanted to revive this thread to see if anybody had done this and to what degree of success. Spent several days reading threads and seen lots of the kits offered. But I have a very early m51 gasser that I am parting out and it has the early style high mounted gear box. If it can or has been done I would try it since I already have it and use the money for other things like tires, paint etc.

 

[WarriorPrincess]

I have done this on several modified deuces by using the old style steering box assembly and works fine way better than all those kits out there and my new convertion using a new style outside frame steering box just mounted it farther forword on the frame so tires clear not complicated I have a welding/ fabrication shop and this stuff is easy all parts you can get at any surplus yard. I also have a surplus yard. if you have questions feelfree to call 253-961-3434 don't want to type my brains out on here answering questions. my new truck is a deuce that I bobbed andadded a H1 4 door body and 395 tires and I build the MRAP wheel adapters to put these wheels on deuce axles I sell them on ebay anyway hope this helps someone

 

[BackWoodsDrifter]

I would like to see pictures of this mod so that I have an idea as to what i might be getting into.

 

[quarkz]

I am also interested in this and would appreciate seeing pictures of a 5 ton power steering box setup on a deuce.