800 series winch mounting q's

[NDT]

Need some help from some of you with factory winches on your 800 series trucks. Trying to mount up a Garwood 20,000 to the front of Sirblissful's M820A2 and ran into a snag. First, looking at the inside the frame pics, do we need to drill out the frame rail and add more bolts where the gray primer spots are? Also, I was under the assumption that the M39 series and 800 series mounts are the same. The bracket in the second pic (from a M39 series truck) will not match up to the holes on the frame extensions we are trying to use. Anyone got a pair? They are too short to redrill.

Edit: Is it possible that the frame extension inserts we have are for a 900 series truck?

 

[73m819]

thay should be the same, the frame extensions, both inner/outer and the winch mount plates and the lower angles. my extendsons came off a m52, don't know what my winch came off, but came with the winch mounts, these matched up to the mounts that I had got with my extendsons, all of which BOLTED up on my 819,

Could you have the inserts fliped

According to my OLD ord-9 (so old only covers gassers) and 2320-260-20P, ALL the extensons, inserts, winch mounts, and angles ARE THE SAME

 

[topo]

The inside the frame peace is from a 1985 m816 wrecker and the other picture is of the m52a2

 

[doghead]

Not sure if this helps.

 

[NDT]

Looks like we might have frame extensions from a 900 series? From Topo's pic, you can see that the holes are in a pattern like a domino, and there is no tab sticking in the frame towards the radiator like we have. That is probably why the mount is not matching up to the holes on the frame extension.

 

[73m819]

I know I just had the ord-9 and the 260-20p in front of me, the p/n ARE the SAME

 

[doghead]

I just went out and looked at 2 sets of winch extensions. One on my M819 and one set off of an old 5 ton gasser. Both are the same, and different looking than yours.

They have 4 holes in a square pattern, at each end. Then they have 2 holes along the center line(one end only), that the tiedown handle bolts through.

 

[doghead]

Looks like we might have frame extensions from a 900 series? From Topo's pic, you can see that the holes are in a pattern like a domino, and there is no tab sticking in the frame towards the radiator like we have. That is probably why the mount is not matching up to the holes on the frame extension.

I think your right. Here's a pic out of the 939 series TM

 

[doghead]

Does his winch have the hydraulic motor adaptor on the input shaft?

 

[NDT]

Does his winch have the hydraulic motor adaptor on the input shaft?

Nope, it is PTO shaft driven. Thanks Doghead, I just looked at the same diagram on JATonka's web site and sure enough, we have the wrong frame extensions. Two hours effort wasted this morning bolting this up, oh well.

 

[doghead]

It looks like you could just drill the rear most 2 holes out, through the existing holes in the frame. Then drill the 2 holes for the tiedown handle.

Does it look like the front end is correct for the 809 series front bumper?

 

[NDT]

It looks like you could just drill the rear most 2 holes out, through the existing holes in the frame. Then drill the 2 holes for the tiedown handle.

Does it look like the front end is correct for the 809 series front bumper?

Yes, the bumper gussets and the bumper matched up fine, just some of the holes (as you see) were not in the right spot. I'll see if Sirblissful wants a date with the drill press.

 

[Sirblissfull]

If we can drill it out without too much hassle that is fine.

The mounting plates however still will not match up along the top of the frame rail, those will be off far enough I think I should find the correct plates.

 

[topo]

If you could use the ones in my picture let me know .Kenny

 

[Sirblissfull]

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