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Guyfang

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That’s the # stamped in casting. The printed # is 30554-88-20234 MFR 44940
30554= this is an FSCM. Thats the entity that is responsible for issuing the part number. This is MEP. Mobile Electric Power. Its the Army office responsible for power generation.

88-20234= is the Army part number. Not always the manufacturers part number, and in this case its not. Whenever you see a part number that starts with 88-**** that means its a power generation specific part.

44940= this is a FSCM. Thats the entity that supply's the part. That is not always who makes it. In this case, it is who makes the part. ONAN.
 
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So am I safe to order the 186 6467 ? I sure appreciate everyone’s help. And it is a very heavy flywheel so I can see an engine problem not running smoothly to possibly shear the bolts. I was gonna drop the oil and filter and see if there’s any debris in there.
 

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Its funny that no matter what PN listed above you research, not much info is available. and no pictures.
Here's where I got my info.
Green mountain lists 186-6467 as the Onan PN for an 802/803 flywheel for $995
If you google that Onan# you find several other Diesel suppliers selling the same PN as a Flywheel
If you google either of the other numbers you will find virtually nothing.
Maybe you could call one of the lower priced guys and try to get a picture?
 

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I have found that to be true for a lot of the Onan items that were 'absorbed' into the Cummins system... its barebones copy and pricing info, with no real interest in digging up details for those interested.
 
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The 186 6467 one that I see on the Onan website parts book shows a much smaller flywheel than the one I have. That number seems to look like the one that fits the 400Hz machine according to TM.
 

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Keep in mind, the -24P pictures, may not show EXACTLY the same part as you get.


What I am also concerned about is the 60Hz machine and the 400Hz machine have 2 different part numbers in the TM and they look totally different?
What do you mean by this statement? There is only a flywhell for the 60 hertz model, and one for the 400 hertz model. Both clearly marked. You can not mix them up.
 

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It's also interesting that the TM shows the flywheel and ring gear as 2 separate parts. So maybe there is a totally different ONAN PN for the complete assembly not shown in the TM??
I also see that GM lists the "Flywheel" as being 12" x 12" x 6" and 2 pounds?? It's more like 60lbs.
So maybe they are actually selling the #35 drive disc??
You really should call one of the suppliers and find out what is what.
 

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Thats the reason I asked about why he is worried about the two numbers. You see, look at the exploded picture. You see an Item # 41, and an Item #42. BUT what you do not see, is an Item #40. Now look at the description of parts. You see Item #41, GEAR, SPUR. There is also Item #42, it is a FLYWHEEL.

BUT, Item #40 is ALSO listed as a FLYWHEEL, Assy. That is a Flywheel WITH ring gear, (Spur)

I think that is what he means, but am guessing, since he hasn't answered yet.
 

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You may be better off to take it to a machine shop and have them weld it up then turn it back down to spec. I have a spare flywheel that I'm going to be using for a project and I can tell you they are crazy expensive when you can find one.
 

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You may be better off to take it to a machine shop and have them weld it up then turn it back down to spec. I have a spare flywheel that I'm going to be using for a project and I can tell you they are crazy expensive when you can find one.
Too many of these sets have gone south, and been used as parts machines. There HAS to be a flywheel someplace.
 

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186 6467

This part number is not listed in the TM's, so I can not tell if its 400 hertz or not.

The lister peter # for the flywheel is 750-6467, according to GMG. I found that number in my lister peter books, but as I do not know what bolt up is for the MEP-803A, I just can not tell for sure. I think Rays suggestion to call and ask for a picture is sounding ever better.
 

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I might have a flywheel available, I don't know yet. I have an 803 here that may need a genhead replacement (haven't had time to diagnose it) and I have purchased a complete new genhead with flywheel for it.
 

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OP stated this gen has 35 hrs on it and I find that kinda disturbing. Mine is a 2011, post Sally it has almost 90 hrs on it now. I am going to give it a complete service...is there anyway I can see these bolts? Is Lister Petter known to have this happen alot? This is a problem I do not need if I can help it
 

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Chief. The hour meter is not always right. It is often changed, when a set gets a new engine, (but not always). Its often changed after reset, (but not always). It often goes bad. Do not put too much store in the hour meter is what I am saying.

The OP's problem was not the Flywheel, it was sheared off flywheel bolts. That will NOT happen unless the engine stops suddenly. I think there is more to be seen in this story. I saw, in the 8-9 years I was a contractor, 1 set that happened to. ONE.

If you want to check the bolts, you can. Got some spare time? It requires taking the set completely apart. If I bought a 802 or 803 I would certainly take it apart, down to the bits and pieces. But I have done a few times. I don't think you need to worry about something like this.

Most big gen sets, have a "Belt" that goes around the end bell of the engine, and the end of the main gen. You simple remove 1-2 bolts, take the "Belt" off, and can reach, (if your hands are small enough) into the space between the two peices of equipment and feel the bolts. If your like me, I had to use an off-set wrench, to get in and check them. This was one of my biggest complaints about these small sets. It requires a complete disassembly to get at those bolts.
 
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