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AM General Suing Activation

Wire Fox

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Just came across this... https://www.engadget.com/amp/2017/11/10/humvee-activision-call-of-duty-lawsuit/

The makers of Call of Duty, Activision, is being sued by our benevolent overlord for non-licensed usage of their trademarks and design. Think AM General stands a chance?

I'm betting they lose. Chrysler Jeep failed at the claims for the Hummer grill design, and Colt failed to hold onto their M4. I don't think precedent is on their side.
 

gimpyrobb

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Ignorance.

In the past there were kits you could get to make a regular truck look like a hmmwv, I think they were called bumvees. I wonder if they go to court and say thats what they modeled it after, if that would fly. Does that grill guard look like any that have been in production? could they say its their own design?

Seems pretty thin to me.
 

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Ridiculous, Imagine that precedent. Every single wargame would be at the mercy of numerous lawsuits. Battlefield series, They would have all kinds of helicopter companies and APC, Tank manufacturers, plane manufacturers jumping on the bandwagon for some bucks.
 

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Ignorance.

In the past there were kits you could get to make a regular truck look like a hmmwv, I think they were called bumvees. I wonder if they go to court and say thats what they modeled it after, if that would fly. Does that grill guard look like any that have been in production? could they say its their own design?

Seems pretty thin to me.
You're thinking of the Urban Gorilla kits.

Early on they looked like this:

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Then, this happened.

Now they look like this:

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I'm wondering when the lawsuit against China/Dongfeng is going to happen...

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nattieleather

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I'm wondering when the lawsuit against China/Dongfeng is going to happen...

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China and their car company bought the rights to manufacture the HMMWV in China. So there is no copyright infringement because they already have permission.

As for the video game I think what will happen is the VG Maker will settle out of court and give AMG a little wad of cash to make them shut up and go away.
 

ryanruck

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China and their car company bought the rights to manufacture the HMMWV in China. So there is no copyright infringement because they already have permission.

As for the video game I think what will happen is the VG Maker will settle out of court and give AMG a little wad of cash to make them shut up and go away.
Not exactly...

China ripped off the HMMWV as the "Mengshi" in 2007.

It wasn't until earlier this year that China officially got the Hummer, and they're being produced here.

If you're talking about the 2010 deal for GM to sell "Hummer" to China, that fell through.
 

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The seven vertical grille openings is trademarked by AM General somehow. There was a issue with Chrysler Jeep over that, but it was resolved at some point. I think that because AM General originated as the Military Arm of American Motors Corp, the then owner of Jeep, AM General was allowed to keep the grille shape and also use it in logos and things like that.
 

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Have to wonder how far they'll go. I can only assume they'd flip their lids if they knew people were making hardtops and doors and what not for them "in the likeness".
 

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I always wondered if folks that use lasers and such to engrave HUMMER or HMMWV or the image onto small items for sale, ever think of copyright infringement. They should be sending some of their profit to AMG.
 
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