Artisan's M916

[R Racing]

The problem with your design is each time you remove the bed and put the fifth wheel back on, or the reverse you have to do a vin verification and have the title and registration changed.

By bolting the bed down you have permanently modified the truck.

The bed on every truck would be removable by your definition.

To avoid this the fifth wheel needs to stay on the truck and the bed needs to use the king pin as one of the attachment points.

You are risking a ticket for an unregistered vehicle if you do not have the title and registration changed when the vehicle is converted.

Is that a CA law or federal? Just curious . I was thinking of putting a deuce bed on my M920 But I was going to leave the 5th wheel on.( I'm to lazy to take it off every time lol)

 

[Artisan]

What man can do, man can undo.

Looks like I will grab a mini 5th wheel and connect the dots
or perhaps just mount it on top... HA!

Holland/Binkley FW0001 miniature 5th wheel

 

[quickfarms]

Is that a CA law or federal? Just curious . I was thinking of putting a deuce bed on my M920 But I was going to leave the 5th wheel on.( I'm to lazy to take it off every time lol)

federal requirement to have registration reflect the correct type of vehicle, flatbed, tractor, etc

Look up the European swap body concepts. This is a method to use one power pack to move several body modules.

 

[quickfarms]

What man can do, man can undo.

Looks like I will grab a mini 5th wheel and connect the dots
or perhaps just mount it on top... HA!

Holland/Binkley FW0001 miniature 5th wheel

The information I was given was that the bed had to be connected using the semi fifth wheel.

Mid the top of their head the dot guys named a half dozen or so trucks owned by the big rock and sand companies that use the fifth wheel to attach a removable dump bed. The added weight of the fifth wheel and sub frame is estimated to cost the about a half yard in capacity per load and they would not be losing this capacity if they did not have to.

 

[Artisan]

I think I will simply add a tiny 5th wheel plate to the back and
call it legal. I appreciate the input tremendously. I found one for $100,
let's see how creative I can get w/ it.

 

[zebedee]

... even if you sit it really low between the frame rails, allowing you still to show the man that you "pull" an RV type goose neck trailer that does not need the really big - full width trailer king-pin plate. but with a few bolts, you could change out to a full size fifth wheel.

And don't forget the gooseneck flat beds that have a reversible goose ball or a flap in the flatbed floor to expose said goose ball...



I guess the similarity of interchangeable beds can be drawn to those tractors that legally double as "not" a wrecker by using a Holmes fifth wheel boom or a Tru-Hitch, which are demount-able (5th wheel atatched) recovery/transport contraptions, that allow you to suspend tow a vehicle a-la a wrecker. The only difference between this and your tractor/tructor is that you don't need a special CDL endorsement or insurance.

 

[quickfarms]

I think I will simply add a tiny 5th wheel plate to the back and
call it legal. I appreciate the input tremendously. I found one for $100,
let's see how creative I can get w/ it.

You may want to call it legal but since your flatbed is bolted to the frame the trucks becomes primarily a flatbed that can tow a small trailer as a secondary application so it needs to be registered as a three axle flatbed.

In the pictures your flatbed looks like it is to low to allow full articulation of the suspension.

 

[Artisan]

You may want to call it legal but since your flatbed is bolted to the frame the trucks becomes primarily a flatbed that can tow a small trailer as a secondary application so it needs to be registered as a three axle flatbed.

In the pictures your flatbed looks like it is to low to allow full articulation of the suspension.

Nope, that is cat walk LOL I was thinking about this a few hours ago I ship-u-not.
I will get stencils that say KEEP CATWALK CLEAN, STORE NO CARGO

It has been addressed in so much that there is 4" of travel, there is about 5.5" of space
if you measure from the tangent of a wheel perpendicular to a cross-member.
Yes I know when one tire drops and another rises these dimensions become exaggerated.
No crossmembers are over the center of a tire too. I am fully aware that I
may need to add a spacer w/ longer bolts should indeed it become an issue, but GOOD EYE QF.
You always catch the stuff the average Joe misses.

I need to test these things, maybe we can do it next meet.

I wonder if the TM gives articulation dimensions?

 

[Artisan]

Yep, the project has changed. It is no longer a flatbed.
It is a mount and catwalk for 5th wheel plate. The
superstructure is a catwalk and the mount for my 16K 5th wheel plate.
(Not to mention this is all removable and my 3.5" or 2" SafHolland 5th wheel
plates will mount up allowing me to pull 106,000 pounds RATED.)

The 5th wheel plate attaches to the mount and the mount attaches to the frame
just like any other 5th wheel. This one is simply custom.

Done deal.

The law is the law, we are a men of laws. The laws are written to thwart
injustices as well. Personally? I do NOT bow to the law, I use it's verbatim to my
advantage, right down to the spirit of the law, as well!

NEXT!

 

[cadillac]

Hey there is a plate on passenger side where the heater go's in and mounts to. If we are on the same page.

 

[cadillac]

This should have been my first post...

Here are the Technical Manuals. If anyone finds updated manuals or
other pertinent manuals please send to me.

I would implore the SS forum owners to copy these files, make sure they are OK
and upload them permanently, labeled properly into the TM area for all to use.
They will not be on my server forever.

OPERATORS MANUAL -10

HAND RECEIPT MANUAL -10HR

PARTS MANUAL -24P

ORGANIZATIONAL MAINTENANCE -20

DIRECT SUPPORT AND GENERAL SUPPORT MAINTENANCE -34

LUBRICATION ORDER -12

MODIFICATION WORK ORDER -20-1

TRANSPORTABILITY GUIDENCE -14

TECH BULLETIN ARMORED -P1

TECH BULLETIN ARMORED A/C -P2

TRACTOR TRAINING PROGRAM -6

M915 ELEC SCHEMATIC HOME MADE

M916 ELEC SCHEMATIC HOME MADE

M916 INSTRUMENT PANEL HARNESS




A big THANK YOU to member "runk" for e-mailing me some of these files!
WAY TO GO keeping the thread ON POINT and clean.

Good info thank you my friend.

 

[cadillac]

They are just mounted in the back or front and you use the same bolts then, if im late with this reply just ignore it.

 

[Artisan]

CAT 7155 Ratio Selectors / (Shift Boxes) FOR SALE

Looks like I won a small lot of them, they are on Ebay, FS by other people
to see the huge prices most are asking, make a fair offer and you can have one.

(Jim I will contact u very soon, looks like our deal is on Jim )

 

[R Racing]

Sounds good Brad. I'll start boxing things up for you

 

[Artisan]

Hey ya'll, I will be selling this small lot of NOS NIB CAT 1755 shifters (Ratio Selectors)
at DISCOUNTED PRICES so make me a fair offer in PM and I bet you
get a spare. On Ebay they average over $800 EACH, LOL, guess what!
No way NEAR THAT. Only a FEW available. R Racing just got one.

 

[Artisan]

LMHC Crane Components

I have completed* one more part for the LMHC Crane that
was missing, that being the Circuit Breaker box. I grabbed
an AMMO Can and pop'd a few holes and make some wiring
w/ ITT CANNON Solder plugs and Copper Eyelets. Included
is a 50A Auto-Set breaker, polarity's are correct for the motor
per Warn tech-support and I think were down to one more
missing part, that being from the winch motor to my Breaker Box
using ITT Cannon bayonet plugs to attach to the 2 pin plug you see
on top of the Breaker box, same is on the winch motor.

The Ammo can doubles as a place to store the remote control wire
I made months ago as well, all is fed w/ Slave cables to the Breaker box.



*I need a cap for the Cannon Plug 24-9 Bayonet 3102 I think.

 

[Another Ahab]

Pure Genius

I have completed* one more part for the LMHC Crane that
was missing, that being the Circuit Breaker box. I grabbed
an AMMO Can and pop'd a few holes and make some wiring
w/ ITT CANNON Solder plugs and Copper Eyelets.

 

[Artisan]

I think this thread has over 10,000 views currently, if
you have a CAT 7155 tranny I have several ratio selector
boxes (the In Cab Shifter Boxes) that go bad, FOR SALE.
I will beat almost any public price you find for them
within reason. NOS in sealed wooden boxes!

 

[Artisan]

LMHC Crane Components

One more piece of the LMHC puzzle finally is done.
These connectors are time consuming to build.
No crimping, I soldered all pins, tinned ends etc.

A few pieces of steel are needed on the catwalk
and I can put the crane together and actually use it.

This cable connects to the top of the ammo breaker box
you see in an above post, and from there it connects
directly to the crane winch motor. A slave cable feeds
the Ammo box from any slave port.



I had written a company that sells crane parts and I was quoted over $3K
for this cable ...Believe It...

EDIT: NOTE; The silver colored pins are orientated wrong in these pictures.
I should have displayed them 180* from as shown.

 

[Another Ahab]

One more piece of the LMHC puzzle finally is done.


I had written a company that sells crane parts and I was quoted over $3K
for this cable ...Believe It...

$3K:

- For 2 foot of cable!?

Or was that 2 mile?