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Any Texans here who have a 5-ton and use it for towing toys around?
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The above statement is not correct. Use has everything to do with it and if you are not in engaged in commerce you are not Federally required to have a CDL to drive a truck that would require a CDL if you were operating commercially. In several states a vehicle used for you personally moving your own stuff (not to sell) is exempted from the requirement of having to have a CDL. I am the one that writes tickets for this so consider the source. Do a search and you will find at least 3 posts in which I have posted Michigan Law regarding this with the pertinent information highlighted.Jake0147 said:Commercial drivers licenses are for driving commercial vehicles, which are defined by their weight, not their use. Even for personal use you need a CDL for vehicles over 26000 GVW.
This is only one part in one section. Please post the other definitions in the other sections.ida34 said:Commercial motor vehicle means any self-propelled or towed motor vehicle used on a highway in interstate commerce to transport passengers or property when the vehicle—
(1) Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating, or gross vehicle weight or gross combination weight, of 4,536 kg (10,001 pounds) or more, whichever is greater; or
(2) Is designed or used to transport more than 8 passengers (including the driver) for compensation; or
(3) Is designed or used to transport more than 15 passengers, including the driver, and is not used to transport passengers for compensation; or
(4) Is used in transporting material found by the Secretary of Transportation to be hazardous under 49 U.S.C. 5103 and transported in a quantity requiring placarding under regulations prescribed by the Secretary under 49 CFR, subtitle B, chapter I, subchapter C.
New Jersey requires a cdl. There is no "non-commercial" class of licence.newt said:Ida, your beating a dead horse. We're only the trained experts on the law.
sprucemt said:New Jersey requires a cdl. There is no "non-commercial" class of licence.
In Michigan you need a chauffer lic and or a cdl unless,
Individuals: Operating motor homes or other vehicles used exclusively to transport personal possessions or family members, for non-business purposes.
All the states driver license requirements are different. The feds and the fmcfr do not regulate state licensing, the states do.
Thats the point.
And as I have said in multiple post's, if you do get a leo from heck, and they write you up for a multitude of tickets, get a good lawyer.dm22630 said:sprucemt said:New Jersey requires a cdl. There is no "non-commercial" class of licence.
In Michigan you need a chauffer lic and or a cdl unless,
Individuals: Operating motor homes or other vehicles used exclusively to transport personal possessions or family members, for non-business purposes.
All the states driver license requirements are different. The feds and the fmcfr do not regulate state licensing, the states do.
Thats the point.
So....since all states are different (as they are with lots of laws, including vehicular ones), a person would only have to meet THEIR states specific requirements, and they would be legal to drive everywhere?
I.E. --- In VA, they do not allow dark tinted windows or trucks with body lifts over a certain height. BUT.....I have been told by numerous LEOs that I have done ride-a-longs with, that they cant write them since the car is registered out of state.
AND....I am sure that every single state does not have the non-cdl laws for motorhome drivers. YET....people drive them across the country with a regular license (no added classes personal or commercial) with zero problems. I have read here that the state of California requires a CDL to drive a deuce......so if I drove my deuce there, are you telling me that they would pull me over & not let me drive off since I dont have a CDL?
As long as it is for PERSONAL USE & not commercial use....the vehicle falls under "recreational vehicle" exemptions. No CDL or special class in required in VA where I live.![]()
Not a problem. Please post a link to the correct data. There was no listing for non-commercial licenses on the drivers license site.newt said:Sprusemt,
You are wrong about New Jersey. I went thru the commercial motor vehicle enforcement class at the New Jersey State Police Academy. I’ve dealt with New Jersey motor vehicle law everyday since 1984 when I became a cop. There is a big difference between that CDL publication you linked and the New Jersey state motor vehicle statutes and case law.
DM22630
As long as you meet your own State’s requirements for your Dl and Reg, you are good in any of the States that belong to the Interstate Compact Act under “touring privileges”. Other wise you would need 50 Dls and 50 Regs to travel around the country.