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Check how your tires are mounted

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Be sure you check how your tires are mounted. Mine were on backwards. The Goodyears are directional tires and go a certain way. The pictures shown are WRONG. The tread pattern is supposed to go in the opposite direction. Running them like this can damage the tire by breaking belts in the tire. They also will not handle correctly.
 

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Be sure you check how your tires are mounted. Mine were on backwards. The Goodyears are directional tires and go a certain way. The pictures shown are WRONG. The tread pattern is supposed to go in the opposite direction. Running them like this can damage the tire by breaking belts in the tire. They also will not handle correctly.
They are Uni-Directional. It doesn't matter which way they are mounted.
 

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They are non-directional tires. I always mount mine the way they cone out of ANG....with the date code on the outside.
I had a nanager at a Tire Discounters argue with me that i didnt know what i was talking about and that two of my tires were vackwards. I took my business elsewhere.
 

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Be sure you check how your tires are mounted. Mine were on backwards. The Goodyears are directional tires and go a certain way. The pictures shown are WRONG. The tread pattern is supposed to go in the opposite direction. Running them like this can damage the tire by breaking belts in the tire. They also will not handle correctly.
You might be on to something. Point us to your data, link or ???

Mine are all which way, LOL

This way one doesn't know if I am coming or going, CAMO
 

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You might be on to something. Point us to your data, link or ???

Mine are all which way, LOL

This way one doesn't know if I am coming or going, CAMO
They are actually asymmetrical more so than directional. I guess I stand corrected you can mount either way if you choose. However I feel any asymmetrical tire should be ran with pattern in same direction for the best wear and performance.
 

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I think what everyone is saying is that you stumbled onto something everyone already knows and is not concerned about because virtually every HMMWV with Goodyear's have mixed tread "directions" always have and probably always will.
I try to run ANY radial tire in the direction it was originally installed as (if known) because early belt separation on radials was blamed on reversing the direction, why it is normal to rotate tires front to back and not crossed to this day...
 

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I think what everyone is saying is that you stumbled onto something everyone already knows and is not concerned about because virtually every HMMWV with Goodyear's have mixed tread "directions" always have and probably always will.
I try to run ANY radial tire in the direction it was originally installed as (if known) because early belt separation on radials was blamed on reversing the direction, why it is normal to rotate tires front to back and not crossed to this day...
What is this "rotate" thing you speak of? :D
 

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What is this "rotate" thing you speak of? :D
I installed mine so they all rotate in the same direction lol…but seriously, I did try a few combinations of the arrows pattern to point two to front two to back, matched diagonally, but in the end it felt that when all four tires have the arrow pattern pointing to the front (just like in that GoodYear datasheet and opposite than the first two pictures) there was the least vibration and road/ tire noise. (btw, I built, re-build, installed and swapped the tires about 2 cases of beer worth :)
 
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I installed mine so they all rotate in the same direction lol…but seriously, I did try a few combinations of the arrows pattern to point two to front two to back, matched diagonally, but in the end it felt that when all four tires have the arrow pattern pointing to the front (just like in that GoodYear datasheet and opposite than the first two pictures) there was the least vibration and road/ tire noise. (btw, I built, re-build, installed and swapped the tires about 2 cases of beer worth :)
That could just be the placebo effect. That is the result you wanted. Did you use scientific equipment to test vibration and a db meter to check noise levels?
 

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I installed mine so they all rotate in the same direction lol…but seriously, I did try a few combinations of the arrows pattern to point two to front two to back, matched diagonally, but in the end it felt that when all four tires have the arrow pattern pointing to the front (just like in that GoodYear datasheet and opposite than the first two pictures) there was the least vibration and road/ tire noise. (btw, I built, re-build, installed and swapped the tires about 2 cases of beer worth :)
Did you also pull, flip, and reinstall the runflats each time? So the notches always faced out. Or just flipped the rim around?
 

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I installed mine so they all rotate in the same direction lol…but seriously, I did try a few combinations of the arrows pattern to point two to front two to back, matched diagonally, but in the end it felt that when all four tires have the arrow pattern pointing to the front (just like in that GoodYear datasheet and opposite than the first two pictures) there was the least vibration and road/ tire noise. (btw, I built, re-build, installed and swapped the tires about 2 cases of beer worth :)
Two cases of beer and any combination sounds and feels better :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:.
 

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They are unidirectional as noted, but the reason why they aren't mounted for the tread all facing the same direction have to do with the date code on the tire is only on one side, so usually the tire gets mounted with that side facing out.
 

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For what it's worth, the current goodyear MT "enforcer" has bidirectional tread, so they are the same either way you put them on. I put date codes out, but it doesn't matter.

For the older style, I would have all the "arrows" facing forward (on bottom of tire). It's not going to be a big deal if you don't, but you will get marginally better traction with the way goodyear recommends they be installed. That arrow tread concept is pretty common in offroad tires (auto, moto, bike, etc.) and you want the tread "squeezing" dirt/mud between the lugs in low traction situations, not pushing it outwards. The 2 adjacent lugs in the center almost act like a funnel and you want the open/wide side of the funnel grabbing dirt/mud. Again, this is all marginal stuff, not substantial. Having the treads facing opposite directions would drive me a little crazy, but it's not going to make a significant difference on an unrefined vehicle like a hmmwv.

Here's a pic of the tread on the newer MT's.

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Did you also pull, flip, and reinstall the runflats each time? So the notches always faced out. Or just flipped the rim around?
Absolutely, the notches always face out, and the rim is rotated such as the notch is within 1/8” of the valves (the notches are not exactly180 degrees apart so I have to mark which is the exact location so it matches also the balancing- either the red or yellow dot combined with the high/ low runout on the cap - like blutow mentioned, most likely it doesn’t make a big difference, but it’s easier to do the extra work than to fight my OCD - including having all the tires patterns matching in the same direction: :) Those notches alone were a case of beer by itself lol

One thing I figured out was that installing two notches on the date code side and two on the opposite side allows all permutations of diagonally matching patterns plus having all tires arrow patterns facing all in either direction, towards the back or front of the truck (ended up with all tire arrows facing towards the front of the truck).
 
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Just an FYI but any Directional tire will have an arrow on the side and it will be labeled something like "Tire Rotation".
 

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Just an FYI but any Directional tire will have an arrow on the side and it will be labeled something like "Tire Rotation".
Yes, I heard about that and looked on both sides of the tires, but couldn’t find anything indicating direction. I have Wrangler MTs made in 2020
 

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They are actually asymmetrical more so than directional. I guess I stand corrected you can mount either way if you choose. However I feel any asymmetrical tire should be ran with pattern in same direction for the best wear and performance.
So i guess rotating them would be outta the question... That doesn't help tread wear :LOL::ROFLMAO:
 

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I had already intended to rotate the tires in an X, but that will definitely require remounting to keep them rotating in the same direction and even out the wear from the rear camber.
 
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