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While sitting idle in a small one seat room this morning, I was looking over the Austin Western produced manual for the M108 and M62. It has load charts for both trucks. I found that the 20,000# that the 5 ton was rated at lifting was only if the boom jacks were supported to the back of the truck or to the ground, which means you can't rotate with that much weight. The maximum recommended rotatable weight for the 5 ton is 10,000#. The maximum rotating weight of the "Puny" M108 is 8000#. Perhaps in comparison, the little M108 has more bang per pound than its bigger brother. Oh yeah, the M108 only weights 20,000#. I still love my M108.