CUCV Starter question

[rsh4364]

Ill be changing out my starter on Saturday for another 24v GR,both are Chinese,The one Im pulling isn't fried,would it be worth it to have it rebuilt? Or just scrap it?

 

[AECS]

If it is not bad why are you changing it? I would not change it, if you insist hold onto it as a spare.

 

[rsh4364]

It is failing,and right now this is my only vehicle,have had multiple fail to crank situations recently,its had a rough life for 30k miles of me not understanding how to deal with my first diesel. My solenoid/relay checked out,wires all good,batts. good. Its the starter for sure.Are they worth rebuilding?

 

[Warthog]

What type? Direct drive or gear reduction?

 

[rsh4364]

Chinese gear reduction.

 

[dstang97]

Find a oem one and be done with it.

 

[HAWKMAN]

I've got a GM O.E.M direct drive rebuilt (US) unit available if you want to go that way.

 

[rsh4364]

I've got a GM O.E.M direct drive rebuilt (US) unit available if you want to go that way.

Maybe next time,I was in a hurry to get one so I got one from DB elect.

 

[Jonah2011]

Hey guys , while you are on the subject of starters , I had a couple questions on mine . My CUCV 1008 is an 86 - I rebuilt the Bendix starter after it was making a noise intermittently - sounded like the bendix wasnt fully engaged - . The starter still does it once in a while . I talked to a couple of guys and they thought the flywheel may be damaged . I looked at it and do not think that is the case. Just wondering if there is a trick on them or if I should just look for a new 24v starter ..

 

[Warthog]

Your starter may require shimming. Also make sure you install the correct support bracket for the type of starter you have.

 

[Jonah2011]

The original didn't have shims .I didn't think that it would need to be pulled back but I will look at it again. Thanks for the reply

 

[doghead]

You must measure the gear mesh clearance in order to determine if you have proper engagement(need to shim).

This is covered in a TM.

 

[rsh4364]

new starter install problem.

Let me start by saying Im 50 yrs old and have changed lots of starters,I attempted to change out starters today on my 1009.Worked on putting new Chinese GR starter in,could only get one bolt in,the second bolt would not line up,no matter what I tried.Seems like the innermost bolt hole is a little off,when I run that bolt up the starter wobbles back and forth like the bolt is bent.Im pretty sure bolts are straight,I tried using 5 different bolts,3 new GM and the two used bolts,no luck..I worked on this for nearly 4hrs.I could get one or the other bolts started but not both at same time.This is my only car right now and I have to have it running...This might force me to buy a 12v starter,which I would rather not do.Would it be safe to drill out mounting holes on starter to give me some play? When I remove starter all bolts hand start easily so not threads.Would it be possible to run new starter with one bolt and support bracket?Going to re install old starter in morning and cross fingers.

 

[firefox]

Here is an idea, but I can't guarantee anything. Take both starters to your workbench.
See if you can flip one over and match up the holes. use a scribe and scribe the new one
thru the holes of the old one. Then you need to see if it is both holes that are too close or
far apart. Or one of the holes is off set and the other lines up. Once you verify this you can
take a round file and modify both holes in the first case, or the one hole in the second case.
Unless there is a huge difference, you should be ok. Just make sure you take your time
withe the initial measurements and marking.
Hope this helps.

 

[doghead]

Stop buying Chinese.

 

[dstang97]

^^^^^ this. Your trucks not Chinese so don't buy Chinese parts.

 

[royalflush55]

Stop buying Chinese.

I agree 100% with you doghead! I always buy AC DELCO starters & alternators or rebuild the old ones. A correctly rebuilt DELCO starter will outperform any aftermarket starter and it will fit correctly. And you are being good to your flywheel and engine block at the same time. I recommend AC DELCO on all electrical items if you want them to fit properly and last a long time. I have had their batteries to last over ten years in Medium duty trucks. Find a GM dealer that will treat you right on price and it will solve a lot of your problems!

 

[rsh4364]

I've got a GM O.E.M direct drive rebuilt (US) unit available if you want to go that way.

pm me with a price,last year I had 3 vehicles running,so if one didn't start no big deal.This year its just me and the 1009.And I was just telling a buddy I need to pick up some backup parts..LOL.

 

[rsh4364]

Here is an idea, but I can't guarantee anything. Take both starters to your workbench.
See if you can flip one over and match up the holes. use a scribe and scribe the new one
thru the holes of the old one. Then you need to see if it is both holes that are too close or
far apart. Or one of the holes is off set and the other lines up. Once you verify this you can
take a round file and modify both holes in the first case, or the one hole in the second case.
Unless there is a huge difference, you should be ok. Just make sure you take your time
withe the initial measurements and marking.
Hope this helps.

Thanks firefox your post got me thinking,since I live in an apartment building I have no garage or vise and all that goes with it.What I did is surely not wise,but its starting well now.I took a drill bit that just fit into mounting hole,could tell hole was miss aligned,I drilled hole out with cordless drill til drill bit looked straight,took about 4 bit sizes up to accomplish.And to the other guys I know I will be replacing as soon as oil gets cold and thickens up.

 

[royalflush55]

Thanks firefox your post got me thinking,since I live in an apartment building I have no garage or vise and all that goes with it.What I did is surely not wise,but its starting well now.I took a drill bit that just fit into mounting hole,could tell hole was miss aligned,I drilled hole out with cordless drill til drill bit looked straight,took about 4 bit sizes up to accomplish.And to the other guys I know I will be replacing as soon as oil gets cold and thickens up.

You did install the starter brace on the end of your starter didn't you? If not you are asking for more trouble. With the oversize hole this starter will be prone to breaking mounting bolts and or the holes in the block.