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This is alot of info from experienced people to consider. Much to consider. the end use, the frequency of use, the installation aspects.
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Hey that's neat Bjorn! Mine won't be as impressive as I'll just have to aim the mast and spool it in. I could use mine like a fishing pole where you'd pull up then spool in as you lower, them pull up...
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Right, but do consider the stresses on the crane mount. That's where the second snatch block comes in, to maximize the pull and minimize the stress on the crane mount...spicergear said:
The idea is useful for wreckers also.
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http://www.warn.com/industrial/severe_duty/pn63891.shtml
http://www.warn.com/industrial/winches/series_18dc.shtml
milspec 12k electric they have them up to 18,000
240amp on the 12k
http://www.warn.com/industrial/winches/series_18dc.shtml
milspec 12k electric they have them up to 18,000
240amp on the 12k
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I bought a 1970 Kaiser Jeep m35a2 few weeks ago and this one is electric. It plugs in behind bumper. Has about 10-15’ cord to control it. And also the side has a belt on it as it works. It’s def a military winch but my plate on dash says WOW so I’m guessing the frame was extended and this was added. I’ve never seen an electric/belt one
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Now THAT is a strange duck! Maybe some of the more experienced members will chime in.......................... a video of it working would be neet! Any specs on it? THANKS for sharing!!
PS>>>>>>>>Where at in IL? Im around Peoria
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Few pix n quick video. I was leaving for work but that’s the general concept of it
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Gotcha! Looks purdy sa-weet................Wonder what the pull is? Have line brake? You say it "plugs in", ya mean with like a NATO/slave type plug?
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Has regular plug in connection like a regular truck winch would havr
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That is not military. Someone got creative with a winch and added that pulley and belt system to it. That looks like a "Tulsa" winch. I almost went with one before I found the military 24 volt WARN winch.
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You'd think the belt would slip with any serious pull.
Obviously it doesn't or it wouldn't be made that way. Very interesting.
Obviously it doesn't or it wouldn't be made that way. Very interesting.
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I haven’t had a chance to actually try it on something. I ordered the military chain and hook for it. Suppose to be here Friday then I may hook it to my 3/4 ton truck and see.
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Here is a hydraulic setup on our Canadian Deuces:
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If I had the money, that is the system I would have !
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G'day everyone,....
That looks bulky compared to the PTO winch.
The only down side to a PTO is if your engine isn't running (or broken) you have no winch.
I do think though that an electric winch would be good for the rear of a Deuce.
A little more compact so mounting should be easier and always consider the load rating,...
And empty Deuce is what 13,500 pounds then add any weight your carrying then you have to add the resistance you need to overcome from whatever obstacle has you stuck.
Most people should be using a double line pull in the real world at minimum just for safety.
I say this with 15 +yrs of off road 4x4 driving under my belt, now I have my Deuce I am all the more aware of the physics involved.
Aussie.
That looks bulky compared to the PTO winch.
The only down side to a PTO is if your engine isn't running (or broken) you have no winch.
I do think though that an electric winch would be good for the rear of a Deuce.
A little more compact so mounting should be easier and always consider the load rating,...
And empty Deuce is what 13,500 pounds then add any weight your carrying then you have to add the resistance you need to overcome from whatever obstacle has you stuck.
Most people should be using a double line pull in the real world at minimum just for safety.
I say this with 15 +yrs of off road 4x4 driving under my belt, now I have my Deuce I am all the more aware of the physics involved.
Aussie.
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You don't have hydraulics either without the engine running. So electric is the only one working on batteries alone. I love my WARN 18,000 winch. I have three snatch blocks and plenty of chain, so if I ever get stuck I can get myself out. The Marines taught me to get my M60 tank out of a mud pit with just two logs and two chains, so with all I have now I can get out of almost anything !
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G'day everyone,.....
The major down side with an electric winch is that with no engine running to keep the batts charged or more accurately the alternator supplying the power you only have the batts capacity to run the winch till the batts go flat.
If you do have the engine running then for a electric winch is its ability to disperse heat, they get hot under long use.
Each has its benefits and short comings, the user just has to be aware of them and decide what they can use best.
I personally have a warn electric 9,000lb winch on my 4x4.
Now with my Deuce I have a PTO.
I look forward to having a play with my PTO,....
Aussie.
The major down side with an electric winch is that with no engine running to keep the batts charged or more accurately the alternator supplying the power you only have the batts capacity to run the winch till the batts go flat.
If you do have the engine running then for a electric winch is its ability to disperse heat, they get hot under long use.
Each has its benefits and short comings, the user just has to be aware of them and decide what they can use best.
I personally have a warn electric 9,000lb winch on my 4x4.
Now with my Deuce I have a PTO.
I look forward to having a play with my PTO,....
Aussie.
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This M35A2 with an electric winch belongs to Steel Soldier speedfellon. Just took this pic last week in Petaluma. Not sure who the manufacturer is or how well it works. But maybe he'll chip in with the details.
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That's exactly the whole point ! When your engine is not running you have "nothing" working except the electric winch using those large batteries. I'd rather have the option of getting unstuck using a battery then "no" option without the engine running. That's another reason the military went with the WARN 18,000 in the first place. Lets say your truck went in the water and the engine stopped. How are you suppose to get it out ? The electric winch. I'd rather burn up my batteries then loose my whole truck to a river. Just saying.
Of course you must pay attention to heat build-up during normal use. That is just the nature of the beast. I can live with that. Now if I had the money I would have the WARN 18,000 plus a "hydraulic" winch mounted below it. Best of both worlds !
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you can control the heat with snatch blocks by reducing the load and draw off the batteries, if the 18k warn works on a mrap it'll work on my much lighter deuce, only drawback i could find when winch swapping was it "only" has 75' of cable that could reduce the amount of real estate for snatch blocks if a close anchor is not handy, so when rigged up ill have a couple lengths of cable along