FMTV vs International Navistar Family

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I'm not too familiar with the International Navistar family of offroad trucks other than them being the basis of a few MRAPs. I just realized there are wrecker and cargo variants. Why are these a thing when the FMTV exists? How do they compare to the FMTV and older trucks the FMTV replaced?
 

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The Navistar MaxxPro line was mostly armored cabs & aimed at export market.

And it’s telling that Oshkosh’s MTVR line is the favored choice over FMTV at least for Navy & Marine Corps
 

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The Navistar MaxxPro line was mostly armored cabs & aimed at export market.

And it’s telling that Oshkosh’s MTVR line is the favored choice over FMTV at least for Navy & Marine Corps
I'm not sure but weren't those made at the Garland Texas plant?

I know that their main op is in Chicago (which also btw ....moving to Texas) but I thought the MTVR stuff was done in Garland.
 

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Is engine power the main advantage of the Navistar trucks? Last I knew they used 300+ HP commercial truck diesels, a little more oomph than the Cats in the FMTV.
 

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I'm not too familiar with the International Navistar family of offroad trucks other than them being the basis of a few MRAPs. I just realized there are wrecker and cargo variants. Why are these a thing when the FMTV exists? How do they compare to the FMTV and older trucks the FMTV replaced?
Canada may have wished for that truck and maybe even wrote the spec.....sorry. I don't hear a lot of good things about the Internationals up here. It's been a decade so let's hope they have the bugs worked out. We needed extra fellas to help repair them back in 2013....and 2016 .https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement-data/tender-notice/PW-WPG-209-8573

The civi platform can do recalls https://www.trucks.com/2016/08/29/navistar-prostar-recall/

The military process just keeps fixin' things until we get it right....or spend a ton of money then just walk away. I know a guy that spent years repairing wiring military harnesses to keep them from burning up so they did provide employment opportunities. http://www.defense-aerospace.com/ar...ns-$231m-canadian-order-for-1,300-trucks.html

The $274 Million contract was awarded to Navistar Defence LLC following a competitive procurement process. Canada will take delivery of the first trucks in the summer of 2009, with all the trucks to be delivered within 18 months after the contract award.

I like em' for all the highway, hauling, big cab, radio, heater, soft seats, slightly offroad on flat/hard ground capability, family haulin', camping/fishing fun.

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They say there's lots of power so what more could you ask from a steel soldier.

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Canada may have wished for that truck and maybe even wrote the spec.....sorry. I don't hear a lot of good things about the Internationals up here. It's been a decade so let's hope they have the bugs worked out. We needed extra fellas to help repair them back in 2013....and 2016 .https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement-data/tender-notice/PW-WPG-209-8573

The civi platform can do recalls https://www.trucks.com/2016/08/29/navistar-prostar-recall/

The military process just keeps fixin' things until we get it right....or spend a ton of money then just walk away. I know a guy that spent years repairing wiring military harnesses to keep them from burning up so they did provide employment opportunities. http://www.defense-aerospace.com/ar...ns-$231m-canadian-order-for-1,300-trucks.html

The $274 Million contract was awarded to Navistar Defence LLC following a competitive procurement process. Canada will take delivery of the first trucks in the summer of 2009, with all the trucks to be delivered within 18 months after the contract award.

I like em' for all the highway, hauling, big cab, radio, heater, soft seats, slightly offroad on flat/hard ground capability, family haulin', camping/fishing fun.

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They say there's lots of power so what more could you ask from a steel soldier.

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Lots of really nice truck pictures!
 

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These trucks seem like a no-brainer to procure - civilian comforts and military capabilities. I know the FMTV is more comfortable than the trucks before it, but I think I'd rather get one of the Internationals.

I saw a video of a Navistar wrecker recovering a buried MRAP. Are the Navistar wreckers standardized in the DoD with an M number? I haven't been able to find one.
 

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The photographers let me borrow a few pictures of the trucks at work. I asked the wizard how they designate them these days. I learned more than I wanted again.

"""""""In 2005, the US Army ordered 2900 7,000-MV for the Afghan National Army and Iraqi Ministry of Defense and an additional order of 7,000 was added in 2008.[1]

The Canadian Forces Land Force Command has adopted the Navistar Defence LLC Medium Logisitcs truck and designated it the Medium Support Vehicle System (MSVS). 1,300 units will replace the MLVW fleet by June 2010.[2] The civilian designation of the 7000-MV is Navistar 7400 SFA 6x6."""""""""


Gin Palace was the most common name back in the day. It appears there are options.

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Two more interior pictures and a comparison to WWII gear.

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The photographers let me borrow a few pictures of the trucks at work. I asked the wizard how they designate them these days. I learned more than I wanted again.

"""""""In 2005, the US Army ordered 2900 7,000-MV for the Afghan National Army and Iraqi Ministry of Defense and an additional order of 7,000 was added in 2008.[1]

The Canadian Forces Land Force Command has adopted the Navistar Defence LLC Medium Logisitcs truck and designated it the Medium Support Vehicle System (MSVS). 1,300 units will replace the MLVW fleet by June 2010.[2] The civilian designation of the 7000-MV is Navistar 7400 SFA 6x6."""""""""


Gin Palace was the most common name back in the day. It appears there are options.

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Two more interior pictures and a comparison to WWII gear.

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I'm not too familiar with the International Navistar family of offroad trucks other than them being the basis of a few MRAPs. I just realized there are wrecker and cargo variants. Why are these a thing when the FMTV exists? How do they compare to the FMTV and older trucks the FMTV replaced?
ever off road in a navi?
With that huge probiscus blocking your trail views, and the limp noodle frame.. I wasnt impressed.
Next time you see a civilian 6x6/4x4 utility truck or railway truck etc, crawl under it and take a close look.
Ive seen the Navy contracted navi, and it was set up just like the civvy version.
No - go for a build for me.
the big cabs nice though..
 
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