H1 tail light buckets on Hmmwv?

[Pstyckiewicz]

So I ended up having to use standard front turn signals. I had purchased some led ones but they were faulty. I returned them but the seller on e-_ay screwed me and didn’t refund my money or give me a new set of lights. And customer service was a joke. Thus I settled with the cheaper set of incandesecnt and they work fine.

 

[Thunderbirds]

What does the sellers’ handle on the site rhyme with, so we could avoid buying these lights in the future?

 

[Mogman]

So I ended up having to use standard front turn signals. I had purchased some led ones but they were faulty. I returned them but the seller on e-_ay screwed me and didn’t refund my money or give me a new set of lights. And customer service was a joke. Thus I settled with the cheaper set of incandesecnt and they work fine.

If they were less than 45 days from the sale then you did not handle the return correctly, you should have opened a case and stated the reason is they were defective, if he accepted the return and did not refund your money then I have no issue with naming the seller as this is first hand experiance and not third party hearsay and this sounds like a seller that we should use caution with.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

Ok I’ll lay it out there and see what yall think. Purchased the lights while painting and putting this thing together. Yes it went over the 30 day return window by the time I got to that stage. In addition, a month or so of figuring out what was going on because I knew changing over to LEDs could pose a bunch of problems.
Narrowed it down to there must be an issue with the lights. I contacted the seller and they reported that it was a discounted price and it was part of a bad bach of lights. Let me state that it was listed as New and never said anything about it being defective on the website. I then try to look at the original posting and it was gone. The seller states that the original post stated the defect. I called the website and they said it was listed as new with nothing about it being defective. I contacted the seller again and advised them it was listed wrong. No response from seller. I then called the website and someone from a diffrent country told me to mail the lights back and that I would either get a new set or a refund. The employee of the website also read the messages between me and the seller and gave me the return address.
Long story short the seller never answered my messages and now had my returned part was gone due to the website employees telling me wrong stuff to do.
End of the day the seller was wrong with the listing. Didn’t care to fix his mistake and E_ay dosnt care that their employees essentially told me to give my stuff away. So I was out money and had nothing.

 

[Mullaney]

Ok I’ll lay it out there and see what yall think. Purchased the lights while painting and putting this thing together. Yes it went over the 30 day return window by the time I got to that stage. In addition, a month or so of figuring out what was going on because I knew changing over to LEDs could pose a bunch of problems.
Narrowed it down to there must be an issue with the lights. I contacted the seller and they reported that it was a discounted price and it was part of a bad bach of lights. Let me state that it was listed as New and never said anything about it being defective on the website. I then try to look at the original posting and it was gone. The seller states that the original post stated the defect. I called the website and they said it was listed as new with nothing about it being defective. I contacted the seller again and advised them it was listed wrong. No response from seller. I then called the website and someone from a diffrent country told me to mail the lights back and that I would either get a new set or a refund. The employee of the website also read the messages between me and the seller and gave me the return address.
Long story short the seller never answered my messages and now had my returned part was gone due to the website employees telling me wrong stuff to do.
End of the day the seller was wrong with the listing. Didn’t care to fix his mistake and E_ay dosnt care that their employees essentially told me to give my stuff away. So I was out money and had nothing.

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You might look in the "way back machine" and see if the original posting is there.
If so, screen scrape it and email it to them... Hopefully that will solve the problem?

Wayback Machine

wayback.archive.org

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

So E_ay can see the original posting and the messages between you and the seller. E_ay reported that the listing had the item as new and stated nothing about it being defective. I advised the seller that he was in fact wrong and never got another message after that. E_ay employees essential screwed me over and lied to me by saying that in the messages between the seller and buyer(me) that they agree with me and that the seller was wrong. They then advised me to return the item and tell the seller that I would be looking for a new set of lights or a refund and if that didn’t happen E_ay would step in and get me my refund. Well E_ay was wrong essentially had me give my $240 lights away for free to the seller who was no longer talking to me. I went on to calling E_ay to file a claim that they gave me false information. After about a month they told me to pound sand.
During this time I was pretty angry that E_ay facilitated this transaction of me giving my lights away ($240) and then telling me that I need to talk to the seller to get them back. This was an E_ay mess up and they said all well it’s past the 30 days.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

This is the messages between seller and me.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

I tried to post all the messages but it won’t let me.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

The screen shots appear to be not in order either. Not sure what happened to the images.

 

[Mogman]

In eBay's defense because of their policies there is not much they can do 45 days after the sale, this is to give some protection to the sellers, before that the buyer has all the power, if an item is new or used the buyer has 45 days to open a case no matter what the seller states, the 30 day "return" window is for returning an item that does not fit (the buyer has some responsibility to make sure the item they buy is the correct item but in automotive parts if you use the part locator you are covered) or the buyer just does not want the item (buyers remorse) and the buyer usually has to pay return shipping and possibly a restocking fee.

I have bought literally 10s of thousands of items off of eBay since joining in 1998 and have returned my share of items, I have never had a return case for a defective item not go my way, I have also sold hundreds of items on eBay (mostly refurbished Motorola two way radios) and for the most part have not had many issues, I did have one case that stands out, the seller falsely stated the radio did not work then just tossed the radio in the same box I shipped it in only without any packing material and it was pretty beat up when I got it back, I had to take that one on the chin.

However eBay telling you to return the items without getting authorization from the seller was wrong, especially after 45 days as they do not have that authority.

One thing has changed in recent years, it used to be if the seller sold an item as "used" it had to work, if you clicked on the item condition in the sale it would drop a window that stated something like "the item is used but fully functional" so ALL items sold as used must be working, only items sold with the condition "for parts only" were exempt, but now if you click on the condition and if sold as used it can say see sellers description, I have not had any issues with those so I cannot say how a case would go, I am confident if the description says it is working then you would be covered,

It used to be if sold used it mattered not what the description said it had to work.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

I definitely read the posting and the description and it was listed as New.
My guess is the seller copied and pasted the description from the other items he had up.
I have no problems with mistakes, but the unwillingness to just send a new set of lights was kind of upsetting.
But the even bigger issue was the E_ay people telling me wrong info, giving me the address to return the stuff and telling me that’s what I had to do.
Them seeing that the seller was wrong with the discription and then at the end of it all I have no way to get my lights back.
End of the day is E_ay messed up and could care less to fix what they had me do. Also the seller not caring that they messed up and didn’t care to fix their mess up.

 

[juanprado]

Did you PayPal or use a credit card?

I would dispute directly via the method of payment you used.

 

[Mullaney]

Did you PayPal or use a credit card?

I would dispute directly via the method of payment you used.

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Dang Right!
I forgot about that... If you used a CCard to pay PayPay - You have a leg to stand on.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

I kinda bluffed and said I was going to dispute it with my credit company but I used my debit card so there really is nothing I can do.

 

[Thunderbirds]

So, who is this mysterious seller? Only if you don't mind sharing. I would want to be prepared IF I ever bought from that person/company to read the fine print more closely than usual...

I would understand if you rather not spread the info by word of mouth.

 

[MarkM]

You can dispute a debit card charge. You just have to go into your bank and fill out a form.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

Haha I will definitely be doing that then!!!

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

Chp-club is the name on E_ay. I believe that the same company sells stuff under multiple names.
Also the return address is from CO and i believe that the same company is also name USC Industries.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

USC Industry Group*

 

[Ls3rx7]

Well back to the subject I found some h1 look alike lights that claim they run on both 12v and 24v that come in both clear and amber so I ordered some and will update this thread when I receive them.