Help Stuck!! Trying to help came back to bite me!

[oldMan99]

Thanks if it comes down to that I'll send you a pm. As for the high lift i'm trying to stay away from those. My buddy managed to destroy mine the other day even after I told him that it was only rated for 4600 and the front end is over 5000lbs. He is lucky he didn't get hurt.

You are quite right, he was lucky.

You are also right it was overloaded.

However, using 2 jacks, one on each side of the bumper is safe as long as you keep the load more or less balanced between them which is not really to difficult.

FYI:

Hi-Lift Jack Specifications
Approximate weight: 30lbs (14 kg)
4,660 lbs (2113.74 kg) rated capacity
Tested capacity 7,000 lbs.
Climbing pins of specially processed steel with 125,000 PSI tensile strength and 100,000 PSI yield.
Steel bar is manufactured of specially rolled extra high carbon steel with 80,000 pound minimum tensile & carbon .69 to .82.
Steel handle of 14gauge high-yield structural tubing with minimum yield of 55,000 PSI. 1 5/16" diameter x 30" long.
Hi-Lift Jack Features
Every Jack comes complete with an adjustable top clamp/clevis for use in clamping and winching.
Safety bolt is designed to shear at 7,000 lbs. (3175 kg)
For speedy disengaging, lifting unit automatically drops away when load is removed.
4 1/2" (11cm) long lifting nose for positive contact with load.
Steel bar can be reversed for extra long life.
Low pickup of 4 1/2" (11cm).
28 square inch base plate.

Source: http://www.hi-lift.com/hi-lift-jacks/index.html

 

[Recovry4x4]

I should have been following this thread from day one but wasn't. My appology. Lots of info has been discussed and I see many folks are aware of proper techniques. FM 20-22 has a few more methods including de-trenching a truck which requires lifting. The one thing I can't believe anyone mentioned was moving weight or gaining flotatoin. Deuces are quite obviously nose heavy as we can see in the pics. There are 2 things we can do to increase the ability of the front to float. Floatation tires or less weight. Both can be accomplished with what you have there. Adding weight to the last section (3') of bed will lighten the front end. The more weight you add (dirt, rocks, water, wet earth) the lighter the front will get. The second option (and you can do both) is once the front end is dug out is to add duals to the front. Use a spare and an extra tire if you have them or strip them from one of the rear axles if you must. Steering is a pain but so is being stuck for days. This may not be the fixall but will aide in the recovery.

Might find some useful options from this too! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnRRGW6z3UQ[/media]

 

[jbingvtx]

WOW..I would have never thought of chaining logs to the wheels like that. I even saw the junkyard wars episode in which they made a tractor into a side-wheeler riverboat. Good thinking Lars.

 

[armytruck63]

My dad got a Caterpillar D-8 stuck badly in Alaskan mud during the Korean war. They chained a railroad tie to the tracks up front and used it like a giant paddle until it started coming up at the rear of the dozer. Then they unchained the tie, moved it back to the front, and chained it to the track again. It was basically an all day job, but they got the dozer out.

 

[DUG]

Thanks if it comes down to that I'll send you a pm. As for the high lift i'm trying to stay away from those. My buddy managed to destroy mine the other day even after I told him that it was only rated for 4600 and the front end is over 5000lbs. He is lucky he didn't get hurt.

Well if you were using just ONE, I could see how you might have a problem. If you had you buddies bring up three or 4 of them you would be getting stuff done, trust me.

I grew up in Iowa and I've seen two guys work four Hi Lifts at once to unstick some pretty crazy stuff. You're JUST in mud/water. If you want a real challange try snow, ice and mud. You know the kind - early in the winter after a snow when just the 1st few inches of the ground are frozen over. Enough spinning drops you down into mud.

Good times man, good times.

 

[Oasis-3]

5 Ton

wow talk about a 5 ton multi-fuel, pulling a stuck truck.
Hope you get your truck out soon, bin there done that.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFdMDAl2y1w&feature=related[/media]

 

[wldrbob]

i think it was said before on this thread but tire chains will make a huge difference chain it up all around.

 

[Blood_of_Tyrants]

Now if he only knew someone with a pet elephant.....

 

[jimmcld]

I would opt for the duels on the front. It seems that your just barely breaking through with the weight of the front end (after all, you did drive out there). If you cut your psi on the front by half, the duals, it should just drive out.

 

[Unforgiven]

I'm calling foul on this thread.

I think he's a troll.

No photos of the supposed wrecker. No photos of his buddy wrecking the SINGLE high lift jack.

Besides, I saw those photos of the 5 ton stuck LAST YEAR.

Don't feed the troll anymore.

 

[PropDr]

lol. Thanks funny guy.

True, I did not take pics of the wrecker it was another 500' away on the other side of the field. I was more focused on digging out my truck than takin pics of his gear.

OK Ray Charles take a Look at pages 5 and 6 Their is one of the high lift with the broken lever. If you want I can go out their with a news paper right now in the rain and take a legible pic of the paper and the stuck truck at the same time.

For that matter you could drive your happy a$$ out here and give me a hand. Your only 4 hours away. I will even buy the beer.

Nobody is twisting you arm to make you read this thread .

 

[Unforgiven]

At $3 a gallon & 8 mpg I'll pass.

Besides, I have a 5000 lb Cummins/Allison/frame combo sitting in the back of the truck (yes, it's still in the back of the truck for those who remember my garbage truck salvage thread).

I could borrow my wife's blazer but I'm 100% positive it would make it about 4 feet into that field before sinking.

If you get stuck next year I'll help. I plan on singling out the Deuce & hopefully installing ARB's all around. Uncle Sam sucked all my paychecks this year. I figure I'll have just about enough coming back to me for a couple of lockers in April.

You can go to your local 4x4 shop, buy FOUR high-lift jacks, stop at Home Depot to pick up some plywood, & have your truck out this afternoon. It'll be MUCH cheaper than hiring a wrecker.

In fact, you should be out in the field digging right now, not posting on the internet.

 

[Unforgiven]

OK Ray Charles take a Look at pages 5 and 6

Ahah, you did lift it out.

So why are you still stuck?

 

[oldMan99]

wow talk about a 5 ton multi-fuel, pulling a stuck truck.
Hope you get your truck out soon, bin there done that.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFdMDAl2y1w&feature=related[/media]

Hey, anybody have the NSN for that?!?!?

I'm not sure my HOA would let me park it here though....

 

[Unforgiven]

My apologies for doubting you. Here, maybe this will cheer you up. Misery loves company.




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Power steering & ARB lockers, at least in the front, should be the first upgrades to a Deuce.

 

[Gunnar1071]

I never thought of using the pulling truck and two snatch blocks. Does this method still multiply the pulling force or does it simply spread the load over more cable?

I was digging around on youtube to find some winchouts and ran across a disturbing video. No doubt you'll have a few unhealthy thoughts about this one.
http://www.youtube.com/v/2WIgQaC8KXc

Darwin must have been hungover.

 

[PropDr]

Ahah, you did lift it out.

So why are you still stuck?

It sank again about 250 away from the first 2 holes I got stuck in, but this time the entire pass side sank not just the front end.

I would be out there right now but I think it would just make things worse because of the rain we had last night. All you have to do is look at that ground funny and it liquefies.

The last pic on page 5 is what it looks like right now. I took that pic right as it started to pour rain yesterday around 5pm.

I agree about the upgrades, They are in the works. Keep in mind that I have not even had the truck 2 months. I'm going to install hydraulic assist for the steering, a spool in the front with locking hubs, bob it, Detroit locker in the rear, super singles, garwood winch converted to hydraulic drive, and a giant recovery style air bag in the tool box.

 

[Recovry4x4]

Prop, don't forget some recovery straps! I use 6" wide 60,000# rated snatch straps. Winching is a distant last resort and I've off been roading and doing off road recovery most of my adult life.

 

[timntrucks]

wish you were closer i could help.. its hard being stuck and no one bigger to help out

 

[DUG]

Word I got is the 5 ton with the TWISTED PTO shaft is fixed and ready for another try.

PropDr - I hope you're taking care of my buddy Phil - I don't want any more texts of busted shafts or stuck 5 tons. I'll probably need him to save my azz one day.