chrisross
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I picked up a Holden MTO 20 on GP recently. I'd love to be able to use it with the MTVR and an F350 but of course air brakes. I'm curious what you would do.
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When I drop my MTO20 trailer on the pintle of my M923A0, the back end drops 2" and the front bumper rises 1". That's with a completely empty trailer on a 5 ton truck, with an extra 1000 lbs of custom bumper and other stuff hanging off the front acting as counterweight. You're completely underestimating the tongue weight of these trailers. The trailer tows very heavy empty due to the tongue weight even behind a 5 ton. Not to mention the 3'+ lunnette height, the trailer will be extremely nose down making everything worse.well i'm more thinking about threads like the one where the guy creates an air compressor for the brakes. is there any solution aside from converting the brakes?
They are perfectly suited for a 5 ton. It specifies 7 ton because they are a Marine speciality trailer. The 5 tons were already being phased out and the MTVRs coming in. Holden even made a lunette extension to make it work with the 5 tons that were still in service. The bumperettes caused turning radius issues. The military had Holden design them but never placed an order. I probably have the only one in existence on my trailer because I had Holden make it to order for me.To get it to tow properly behind an F350 you'd need to move the trailer axles forward quite a bit in order to balance out the load. Add to that a trailer brake conversion. Then add to those the fact that the bumper hitch tow rating of the F350 is lower than the weight of the trailer empty, you couldn't actually haul anything on the trailer after doing all of that work.
The brochure for the trailer says it's designed for 7 ton and other prime movers, so even the 5 ton is considered too small to be used with this trailer (you can do it, but as others have said, that's a LOT of tongue weight)
The ONLY way I'd put this behind an F350 is if it was converted over to use a gooseneck hitch, there is no other safe/sane way to hook it up considering the weight.