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Unfortunately mechanical failure is the highest cause of accidents in military trucks. Not stupidity when it comes to roll overs going down the highway. Stupidity of other drivers is next on the listWhen making decisions that can effect your life and others it is your responsibility to make the right decisions. For example to say I will not wear a seatbelt just in case I roll my truck over and it will not crush me is not all that intelligent. Because if you get your truck in a position to roll over you are most likely NOT going to have the time to react in a way where you can remove your body from danger. The amount of stupid it takes to roll a m35 on its roof is going to exceed the amount of intelligence and physical ability to get out of danger after the rollover has started.
Now on the other hand there are many situations where being safely secured in your seat can benefit your safety and those around you. Like if you do get in a situation where you do roll your truck but just on its side and not on the roof.
Or driving on rough terrain and possibly getting bounced right out of your seat.
Or whatever the case may be you are safer with the belt on than with out in far more situations.
Smoking cigarettes for the reason of preconditioning your lungs to tolerate smoke is stupid. But if you smoke because you enjoy it that is a whole different situation. Don’t try to justify what you are doing to make it seem intelligent to others when you are denying statistics and common sense procedures. We are not going to force you to wear a belt even tho we think you should so don’t try to make us believe that you found a better way when you are actually creating more risks than you are preventing.
This response is not pointed at any one person but rather my opinion on the subject. Believe me I have been in contact with many people that swear they will never wear a belt and they always have a terrible excuse for it. Every person I have ever had a conversation with that refuses to wear a safety belt always focuses on one scenario that is highly unlikely to ever happen to justify their actions. These people always reject statistics and common sense practices and use their obscure situation to justify their means.
Look if someone wants to do something stupid I can’t stop them. But it would be nice if they stop making unrealistic justifications for their actions. People are going to do what they want so why can’t they just do it without the extra nonsense along the way.
Your comment of that is takes stupidity to put a truck on its roof is way off. The army report i posted even states that they all have high centers of gravity making rollovers probableIf a particular person feels uncomfortable with driving their vehicle they SHOULD NOT be driving it. Or at least they should get to a situation where they are comfortable and gain the experience needed to become comfortable. Most people in accidents regardless of vehicle type are not emotionally strong enough to actively work at making the best of the situation. Fortunately many mv owners served and have training on how to keep a clear head in stressful situations.
Regardless I am not trying to change anyone’s ways because you need to be comfortable in your vehicle in order to operate it properly. That is the nice thing about the forum here we can voice our opinions openly.
I like how you are trying to victimize me when you have multiple people saying these vehicles are unstable and therefore unsafe to drive when all I said is in high stress situations you benefit from having training.Maybe these former military vehicles should not be used on highways by civilians.
This post would be great ammunition for any (and all) insurance businesses to reconsider.
i mean i believe it to be the worst of 2 evils. the kid that rear ended my trailer was wearing a seatbelt. He survived the crash but was groaning and moaning when i pulled him from the car, he never had any brain activity until he passed away 2 weeks later. I believe as though he wouldnt have suffered thru so much before he passed away had he not been wearing a seatbelt and it would have been an instant death. but all i can do is speculate on that.Shall we dial down the rhetoric, and get back to the original topic "Is it safer to wear seatbelts, or not?" Those of you who choose not to wear them that is your decision, those of us who choose to wear them that is our choice.
In very specific situations either choice will be the WRONG decision but what you must look at is what is the most probable situation.
Then there are the situations where it is not going to matter. Like this video
M939s were prone to rollovers due to the loss of steering during severe braking before they installed ABS on the trucks to prevent engine stall.The 809s weren't mentioned here that I found but 939s sure are; are 809s less prone to roll overs than 939s? Smaller dually tires (typically) and a lower body or are all singled out MVs the main concern?
I wont speculate on you being victimized or not. Above my pay grade. Will say, I spent 20 years in the Army. Did another 8+ years as a contractor. Drove everything with a steering wheel and or laterals that the Army had. Was a Master Driver the last 6 years on duty. I took every drivers course you can think of and then some more.I like how you are trying to victimize me when you have multiple people saying these vehicles are unstable and therefore unsafe to drive when all I said is in high stress situations you benefit from having training.
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