LMTV and Gov Planets oil sample analysis

[shadowrwolf]

iron planet tests are not very good they do not pull the oil from the same places or way every time and you do not know how long its been since it had a oil change best bet is to do a oil change and test it your self after your oilchange

 

[Jwade]

The reason you don't always see oil samples should be quite simply if it is not running there is no point in taking the sample. Protocol is for the truck to run for 30 minutes before the sample is taken... Does that always happen? People take shortcuts all the time and quite simply some inspectors are better than others.

 

[tennmogger]

How long have oil sample test results been provided? On what other trucks are they provided? I'd bet GovPlanet takes oil and transmission samples on the FMTV series because they can so easily. Just start the engine and open the engine and transmission test ports to flow a sample. Most likely they do not run the engine for 30 minutes, and probably do not purge the hoses to the test ports before sampling either. (That would mean they would have waste oil to get rid of somehow.) The test is probably run on whatever resided in the test hose, plus a little from the engine/trans.

As for taking a sample from the drain plug on the bottom of the engine or trans, we all know that once the plug is out, it's Niagra Falls under there. Imagine trying to pull a 4 ounce sample and put the plug back in? Better have some big buckets ready. Can't see GovPlanet risking that at all.

How many other military trucks have sampling ports?

BTW, Blackstone test on my Allison showed high copper. Blackstone indicated this could easily be initial wear on bushings and thrust washers and not indicative of a problem.

An earlier comment indicated that high copper and iron in a test would indicate worn clutches. I don't follow that at all. Why?

I am in the group who think the provided test results are mostly useless.

 

[Jwade]

They are typically taken on all vehicles, We have taken oil samples since day 1 as we have been doing it for years on the core business side selling Construction equipment. Some inspectors take on non running trucks as well if they do we post it.

 

[Jwade]

I will say that I am pretty confident that if we didn't provide them we would hear complaints about that too. So kind of a darned if you do darned if don't situations .

 

[shadowrwolf]

How long have oil sample test results been provided? On what other trucks are they provided? I'd bet GovPlanet takes oil and transmission samples on the FMTV series because they can so easily. Just start the engine and open the engine and transmission test ports to flow a sample. Most likely they do not run the engine for 30 minutes, and probably do not purge the hoses to the test ports before sampling either. (That would mean they would have waste oil to get rid of somehow.) The test is probably run on whatever resided in the test hose, plus a little from the engine/trans.

As for taking a sample from the drain plug on the bottom of the engine or trans, we all know that once the plug is out, it's Niagra Falls under there. Imagine trying to pull a 4 ounce sample and put the plug back in? Better have some big buckets ready. Can't see GovPlanet risking that at all.

How many other military trucks have sampling ports?

BTW, Blackstone test on my Allison showed high copper. Blackstone indicated this could easily be initial wear on bushings and thrust washers and not indicative of a problem.

An earlier comment indicated that high copper and iron in a test would indicate worn clutches. I don't follow that at all. Why?

I am in the group who think the provided test results are mostly useless.

the CO and UT locations have been testing the 5 tons as well

 

[tennmogger]

I will say that I am pretty confident that if we didn't provide them we would hear complaints about that too. So kind of a darned if you do darned if don't situations .

Your feedback is greatly appreciated. I was a little speculative of poor procedures in my post. It's always better to have the sample test compared to not having it.

thanks,

 

[Jwade]

Your feedback is greatly appreciated. I was a little speculative of poor procedures in my post. It's always better to have the sample test compared to not having it.

thanks,

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