Locking hub on front and REAR of Bobbed Deuce

[Billy Bobbed]

nice job patracy.

 

[oddshot]

The only net improvement you'll see with locking hubs is reduced fuel consumption when installed on the front. This is because the axles are no longer spinning, nor is the gearset/pinion/front driveshaft. Now, as others have pointed out, the rear axle needs both axles to be engaged to the wheels/hubs.

This post is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Did you read what I said in post #14?


I didn't need an explanation of the working of a differential ... I know how they work.

From all the OVER-EXPLANATION that goes on ... I couldn't tell if thee diff's were locked, unlocked, purple, pink or freakin' green.

I searched this topic VERY hard just to keep from asking this question .... because I KNEW I was gonna get a LOT of information I didn't need.



OK >>> I GOT IT ... the differentials on the Deuce are OPEN!!!

Thank you.


oddshot


So much for the bandwidth.

 

[Westech]

man ..... WTF.... take it ez.. they were just trying to figure out why you want to be able to unlock the rear of a open diff 4x4 not call out your man hood.

 

[Billy Bobbed]

Here we go.

 

[Recovry4x4]

patracy, very thoughtful and informative post despite the fact that you urinated off the OP. Either way I'm sure one of our members will take on some fresh knowledge from it. Oddshot, just because patracy posted some basic info and you don't need it, doesn't mean other members shouldn't see it. If it's info you don't need, just skip over it. No sense is getting all huffy just because you know the info that he posted. If you prefer one word answers, I'm sure plenty of members will oblige you!

 

[patracy]

Sorry oddjob, from your posts, it seemed you didn't understand how the differential worked in our trucks. You never questioned about if the truck had a locker or answered anyone else if you had installed one. I was merely trying to explain why it isn't feasible. My apologies for trying to help. I'll refrain in the future, as I'm sure others will as well.

 

[hdexpert]

lockers

man ..... WTF.... take it ez.. they were just trying to figure out why you want to be able to unlock the rear of a open diff 4x4 not call out your man hood.

Hey Rich, did your truck come with lockers? I thought I heard someone say that at Haspin last year.

 

[Unforgiven]

IF locking can be installed on the rear axle ... can anybody recommend a manufacturer or brand name?
oddshot

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce-...y-deuce-doesnt-have-these-ill-never-know.html



Ouverson Engineering and Machine : Hard Core Rockwell Parts :

Those are about the best axle shafts you can get!
And if you want to put in lockers now, but upgrade axle shafts later, then get his locker.
He can make a few mods to it and it will still work with the 2" 47 spline shafts as well.

 

[clinto]

I think some Marine Corps trucks did have lockers.

M809 series 5 tons, not M44 series 2.5 tons.

 

[colelkhunter]

except that someone needs to buy big girl panties next time. Also a properly formed question usually gets a properly formed answer here........or ridicule. whichever is easier

 

[oddshot]

Also a properly formed question usually gets a properly formed answer here........or ridicule.

Ain't THAT the freakin' truth.

6X6 don't mean "six wheel drive" ...


I APOLOGIZE TO ALL HANDS FOR HAVING A MISCONCEPTION ... AND NOT BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE INFORMATION IN ALL THE THREADS RELATED TO THIS TOPIC.

AS a sign of my repentance for my sin ... I will go and slam my hand in my Deuce's door repeatedly until I learn NEVER to ask another STUPID question here again.

Ever.

Thank you for all the kind help.


oddshot

 

[Westech]

Yes my 5 ton has Lockers in the rear. There was a Air Locked rear axle for a deuce that was out there.. I think Kenny posted on it. It is rare as hens teeth.

here is my two cents.... a bobed MV (deuce or 5 ton) with no locker is like a monkey making love to a foot ball. Funny to watch but not much gets done. I like noting more then watching a big boy truck slam in to the mud and spin off a good one wheel wounder... suck a big truck and big tires and no go. for the 400 bucks slap one in.

 

[jatonka]

Oddshot, You are not endearing yourself to the crew here at Steel Soldiers. It might be wise to sit back and lurk awhile before continuing to post acidic replies. Or just go back to another forum. We aren't bad guys, some like to bust a little, some don't know what they are talkig about, and some like to see minimum BS and maximum tech sharing. Only you know where you are coming from. John Tennis

 

[Flat Black]

Didnt read the four pages of BS, but here is your answer:

Chock the front tires or otherwise secure the truck from rolling. Put the transmission and/or transfer case in neutral. Lift the rear of the truck so both tires are off the ground. Turn one tire by hand, if the other side turns the same direction you have a locker. If it turns the opposite direction, you have an open diff, which is the most likely scenario. Putting a locking hub on the rear axle or axles will only give you the ability to unlock one side should a solid locker like a spool be installed (typically this is a bad idea with a solid or full carrier locker and is only done to drive home with a broken axle on one side, etc.) Locking hubs on the rear will not change the behaviour of an open diff on the street or trail and they are not advised due to potential handling problems that may be caused.

If your transfer case is in 2wd while you are driving down the road, your front drive shaft is not driving the front diff. However, as the tires are rolling down the road, the front tires are turning the inner and outer axle shafts along with the center (chunk) differential gears.

Installing locking hubs on the front axle would break this chain and therefore stop the inner axles and center chunk from turning while you are driving down the road. This may result in a small increase in fuel economy, however it will not change how the truck handles on the street, turns into parking spaces, etc., as it is an open diff (most likely) in its stock form, which allows inner and outer tires to turn at different rates.

If locking hubs were to be installed on the front axle and you selected 4wd on the transfer case, you would not actually have 4wd until you got out and locked the hubs, you would have 2wd LOW in the rear axle only with the front hubs unlocked and an open diff.

There are numerous possible combinations depending on your selection of hubs, axles, lockers, gears, etc. but that should explain the basics.

 

[schwenk industries]

I Don't mean to offend anybody but some times on this web site it's like listing to my grandparents bicker at each other its awkward and makes people want to leave ["what did you say?" "oh my lewi i told you about this last week!" (he turns back to watching wheel of fortune as he waves his hand in dismissal in his arm chair) "oh! ya cant get nothing out'a that man!"(as she turns to me)] see what i mean it is just awkward and if you ask me ruins the atmosphere of this site

By all means i am not against the joking jab and humor here and there it is all part of the reason why i spend time here, but the bickering thing ehh. . as someone else stated on another thread its the cabin fever. sorry but i had to say it. whew. we need a wiping the forehead smiley.