major starting problem, please help!

[Dmoser]

I went outside today to start my truck to do some running around. I get in and cycle my glow plugs for about 10-15 seconds. turn the key and it doesn't want to fire over. stop and recycle the plugs, turn the key to start, cranks for a few seconds then just stops. I can hear the starter relay clicking so i know that its not the ignition switch. i really hope my starter isn't kaput. any input would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Warthog]

Always check you batteries first. Full charge and load tested.

Winter in SD (or anywhere else) can kill a battery very quickly.

 

[Dmoser]

batteries are brand new (a couple weeks old) Exide fleet elite heavy duty truck batteries. and it didnt slow down as it was cranking, it just stopped.

 

[Dmoser]

update: went outside and listened again when i turned the key because the relay click sounded a bit loud. stuck my head out of the door while turning the key and heard the distinct click of a starter solenoid.

 

[BIG_RED]

Starter motor must be no good if the solenoid has power but nothing turns. I'd try to have it rebuilt somewhere local.

 

[Dmoser]

thats what i was scared of. its been having trouble starting lately and i think that has something to do with me not being able to get an after glow off of my glow plugs and that extended crank could have caused the motor to go out. are there any 24v gear reduction starters out there for a 6.2?

 

[BIG_RED]

Yup. They sell them on ebay. A friend of mine needed a weird starter for something and bought one on ebay from DBelectrical. He is happy with it. I think they carry CUCV starters. (i'm not affiliated, just thought I'd throw out a brand).

 

[Dmoser]

i did find a CUCV starter on ebay for 116, not a bad price but more then i have atm

New Starter Military Equipment CUCV 6.2 Diesel 24 Volt | eBay

 

[Warthog]

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[doghead]

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If you do a bit of searching, there have been several recent threads on gear reduction starters. Be sure to fabricate a support bracket.

 

[Dmoser]

oops, sorry bout that

 

[1stSarge]

Is it really posting a link to an "auction" if the item only has a “Buy It Now” option?

 

[doghead]

Yes, especially when there is only one available.


I understand there was no intention of breaking the rule, or collusion, in this case. Sometimes rules do not help.

 

[Dmoser]

Hopefully this weekend ill be replacing my starter if i can get fast enough shipping. I dont have any tools available at home (they are all at work), does anybody know off hand what size the bolt heads are so i know what to take home?

 

[kipman]

I think 15 mm, not 100% sure, get new bolts, I put the gear reduction starter on my 1009, love it, make sure you do the Doghead relay mod, you will notice the new relay makes a loud thunk when engaged, you know it is heavy duty.

 

[Dmoser]

Yea I figure hats not a bad idea. I don't want the relay to go out and ruin my new starter XD. I'll bring me standard size wrenches also just in cass

 

[kipman]

You will need your sockets also.

 

[Warthog]

It isn't very hard. Just hard to get at. You might jack up the truck and allow the axle to hang down. Allows easier access to the starter.

 

[Dmoser]

All IV got is a little 2 ton hack. I hopefully it will reach with some blocks of wood

 

[DonK]

Starter motor must be no good if the solenoid has power but nothing turns. I'd try to have it rebuilt somewhere local.

Maybe....I've seen this where the solenoid engages but nothing else happens, the Starter doesn't turn, etc. This can be caused by Carbon build up or a burnt spot on the Solenoid disc which closes to complete the circuit. Try tapping on the Solenoid with a lite weight or plastic hammer a few times and try to start it. if it turns over or trys to turn over, the soleniod is the problem.