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Ok so I have put the title transfer off for a little while. So I can work on my disguise(and sob story) and until I address more pressing issues. I hired a heavy duty tire/wheel service company near me to come out and put on these new wheels/tubes and flaps properly. Ima going tell you, if thought I was going to do these alone with my regular tools, I was very wrong. Apparently it helps to have a truck mounted crane with outriggers, handheld hydraulic tire seal breakers, or whatever they are called. The first tire was so frozen to the wheel, that at one point they had 3 of those tire presses on the hub at one time to break the seal. After about two hours the first one was a success! Seven more to go, and likely $2000 later.
Next major issue is raising the cab. It’s safe to assume that every air and hydraulic line is absolutely damaged or compromised. So no hand pumping, no engine cranking, no nothing. I disconnected the three bolts holding the cab saddle locks on each side, and removed the bolt holding the bottom side of each shock absorber, so there is no mechanical connection. I then used a 12 volt stand alone hydraulic pump and connected the lines directly to the hydraulic cylinder running horizontal on the passenger side, and used the pendant to try and raise the cab. Nothing happened after I flooded the cylinder, no movement. I think that was the wrong cylinder. Can anyone please advise me on how to raise the cab manually, assuming all hydraulic lines are damaged. A mechanical hand/gear crank would have been so much better than all this over built hardware. Better for a combat situation to be sure. I took a screenshot from a maintainence video I saw online, I think I shows the correct lift cylinder. Maybe if I connect the portable pump to that one it will raise up.
Next major issue is raising the cab. It’s safe to assume that every air and hydraulic line is absolutely damaged or compromised. So no hand pumping, no engine cranking, no nothing. I disconnected the three bolts holding the cab saddle locks on each side, and removed the bolt holding the bottom side of each shock absorber, so there is no mechanical connection. I then used a 12 volt stand alone hydraulic pump and connected the lines directly to the hydraulic cylinder running horizontal on the passenger side, and used the pendant to try and raise the cab. Nothing happened after I flooded the cylinder, no movement. I think that was the wrong cylinder. Can anyone please advise me on how to raise the cab manually, assuming all hydraulic lines are damaged. A mechanical hand/gear crank would have been so much better than all this over built hardware. Better for a combat situation to be sure. I took a screenshot from a maintainence video I saw online, I think I shows the correct lift cylinder. Maybe if I connect the portable pump to that one it will raise up.
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Be sure you had secured the cab. 
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Hello, we own 2 MAN KAT 1 7 T that we had refurbished in Netherlands and we put a mobile Medical unit on each one and we use them in Africa. We are looking for vendors to purchase parts from (In USA if possible) and also need the parts and operators manuals if anyone has them. I have seen other posts about people emailing or downloading them. Who can I contact to get help with sourcing the manuals and the parts?
Attached is a picture of our two units in Africa. We are a non profit from USA but our trucks are now in Africa.
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Did you ever receive any manuals? We have 2 MAN Kats in Africa now also that we need manuals for and a place to source parts either in Africa or USA.
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I am going to call someone I know in the Bundeswehr. They have to have all the TM's someplace in a library.
Just sent a whatsapp. See what happens.
Just sent a whatsapp. See what happens.
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Thank you. English if possible!
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That could be a problem.
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I have the TDv (TM) and I thing the spareparts book. I try to upload them here, but I think they are to big. Perhaps I can attach to an email account.???
Only in German availlable .
Only in German availlable .
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I have the TDv (TM) and I thing the spareparts book. I try to upload them here, but I think they are to big. Perhaps I can attach to an email account.???
Only in German availlable .
thank you, do you want to try to email to me at tony@missiontoheal.org?
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Tony, send you 2 off 4 but the others are to big for my "free"email program will see if i find a way .
will see if i find a way .
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I have the info from Chris, but where? I can not find it.
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Guy,a stick, perhaps a blue one?
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As soon as I can get the Thugs, my Grand Kids out of the house, and go to the blood drive, will look.
Well I have made some progress on “ole Tanker 42”. I finally got my new tires put on, and lemme tell ya that was a serious operation! Took the tire shop a month to complete, they would take two wheels at a time with their crane truck to the shop. The tires were so sealed to the wheel they had to use 3 hydraulic seal breakers to get them to come loose. Each wheel needed new tubes and flaps, cost a small fortune, but it was worth it because these shoes look good on the beast.
Now its decision time on the power pack, what stays, what goes, and what’s possible. I’m gonna need advise from you guys and I’m gonna need some parts from Germany likely.
Hers the plan thus far, engine appears to be in decent shape, at least all the parts not exposed to the direct weather. All electrical junction boxes are still covered and intact. Pretty much every hydraulic hose is toast, wire looms are badly desinigrated but actual wire shielding is still intact around the wires themselves. Transmission (ZF-WSK 400) looks like it was lobotomized.
My initial thoughts are:
- I would like to keep the engine if it runs, mainly because there appears to be a lot of subsystems that were designed to go with it.
- I would like to add a turbocharger system to the engine “if it’s possible” there is a Man marine engine that shares the same number designation (D2840)
-I would like to ditch the transmission if possible, it’s in bad shape and I’ve really got used to the automatic Allison trans in my lmtv. ten speed manual sounds like a nightmare voyage back in time. So two possible solutions come to mind for this, replace the trans with another ZF transmission “that’s an automatic”. Which transmission would be a good replacement? where would/can I get one of these transmissions? Germany? The other idea I had is to drop a reman Hemtt HT740D Allison transmission In its place. Plan there would be to hack up the old transmission and use parts from it to marry the new Allison trans to the 8x8 driveshaft which happens to run in both diametrically opposite directions. It should be doable. I’d like to know you guys’ thoughts on this.
edit- I do have the parts that were removed from the transmission, or at least i think I have them all, it looks like what was removed.
Now its decision time on the power pack, what stays, what goes, and what’s possible. I’m gonna need advise from you guys and I’m gonna need some parts from Germany likely.
Hers the plan thus far, engine appears to be in decent shape, at least all the parts not exposed to the direct weather. All electrical junction boxes are still covered and intact. Pretty much every hydraulic hose is toast, wire looms are badly desinigrated but actual wire shielding is still intact around the wires themselves. Transmission (ZF-WSK 400) looks like it was lobotomized.
My initial thoughts are:
- I would like to keep the engine if it runs, mainly because there appears to be a lot of subsystems that were designed to go with it.
- I would like to add a turbocharger system to the engine “if it’s possible” there is a Man marine engine that shares the same number designation (D2840)
-I would like to ditch the transmission if possible, it’s in bad shape and I’ve really got used to the automatic Allison trans in my lmtv. ten speed manual sounds like a nightmare voyage back in time. So two possible solutions come to mind for this, replace the trans with another ZF transmission “that’s an automatic”. Which transmission would be a good replacement? where would/can I get one of these transmissions? Germany? The other idea I had is to drop a reman Hemtt HT740D Allison transmission In its place. Plan there would be to hack up the old transmission and use parts from it to marry the new Allison trans to the 8x8 driveshaft which happens to run in both diametrically opposite directions. It should be doable. I’d like to know you guys’ thoughts on this.
edit- I do have the parts that were removed from the transmission, or at least i think I have them all, it looks like what was removed.
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Might be that @simp5782 could make suggestions about the transmission. He has done quite a few builds that replace parts to improve performance...
Neat looking truck.
Almost a one of a kind sort of thing.
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The ZF-WSK400 is over complicated, damaged, and has way to many manual gears. I think one of the hd470s would work for this application. What else is needed to operate the transmission? A selector keypad, wire harness and controller? Is the torque converter built into the the fronts side of the transmission? So all I would need to do is to weld up some new transmission mounts and fabricated a couple or for the engine/trans union
Transmission is manual shift 4spd. No controller. No computer. Just a modulator cable which is easily found and a tower shifter.
Torque converter is in the transmission along with the flywheel teeth.
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