Radioactive Deuce?

[45FMJoe]

- there is more checking within boarders then at boarders - actually.

And what orifice did you pull this "statistic" from?

No, really. I would like you to back that up with facts.

 

[x-ray]

And what orifice did you pull this "statistic" from?

No, really. I would like you to back that up with facts.

I am a consultant that works with the department of homeland security - customs & boarder patrol for Scanning & testing and to ANSI N42.46 for homeland security X-ray Inspection & nuclear detection. I also consult and lobby for manufacturers that have or ship products impacted or damaged by radiation in transit.

To be sure The number of units detecting radiation are larger intra-state and intra US boarders than at boarders.

The information I have is cumulative from my own accounts - In NY, for example, the number of systems at boarder checkpoints are countable with two hands - There are maybe two units at boarder ports of entry Every state trooper vehicle in NY is allocated a radiation detector. Most bridges tunnels , highways leading to & near NYC are affixed with detection capability. There are scanner trucks that are within our state that can and do X-ray scan vehicles.

New York has an extensive amount of scanning going on. Both with ionizing and non-ionizing radiation and passive systems to detect a lot of illicit trafficking. I was contracted to refurbish and replace many radiation detectors used by our NY government. I also train emergency responders regarding radiation detection & safety. I have a very good knowledge of what is used and rough quantities involved at least where I have supported such work with agencies across NY, and at the ports in Charleston, SC and at TX/Mexico boarder sites.

Thanks for the "Orifice" comment - what the orafice would be is my brain, I can count on my hand the boarder devices versus the hundreds of other devices I've tested for safety within NY alone.

Thanks for the crazy emoticon.

You might be surprised not everyone that collects army trucks does something technical for a living - many of us have real skills and expertise beyond collecting trucks. If I am crazy about anything, I like to spend far to much money on my deuces.

 

[45FMJoe]

I am a consultant that works with the department of homeland security - customs & boarder patrol for Scanning & testing and to ANSI N42.46 for homeland security X-ray Inspection & nuclear detection. I also consult and lobby for manufacturers that have or ship products impacted or damaged by radiation in transit.

To be sure The number of units detecting radiation are larger intra-state and intra US boarders than at boarders.

The information I have is cumulative from my own accounts - In NY, for example, the number of systems at boarder checkpoints are countable with two hands - There are maybe two units at boarder ports of entry Every state trooper vehicle in NY is allocated a radiation detector. Most bridges tunnels , highways leading to & near NYC are affixed with detection capability. There are scanner trucks that are within our state that can and do X-ray scan vehicles.

New York has an extensive amount of scanning going on. Both with ionizing and non-ionizing radiation and passive systems to detect a lot of illicit trafficking. I was contracted to refurbish and replace many radiation detectors used by our NY government. I also train emergency responders regarding radiation detection & safety. I have a very good knowledge of what is used and rough quantities involved at least where I have supported such work with agencies across NY, and at the ports in Charleston, SC and at TX/Mexico boarder sites.

Thanks for the "Orifice" comment - what the orafice would be is my brain, I can count on my hand the boarder devices versus the hundreds of other devices I've tested for safety within NY alone.

Thanks for the crazy emoticon.

You might be surprised not everyone that collects army trucks does something technical for a living - many of us have real skills and expertise beyond collecting trucks. If I am crazy about anything, I like to spend far to much money on my deuces.

Not to say you're full of it, BUT you didn't even get the name of the agency correct. It's Customs and Border Protection. I never said no one on this board does anything technical for a living, and I'm inclined to believe you from the detail of your post. The reason I'm telling you that your statistic is incorrect is because it is, and I know this because I'm an officer on the ground. ALL ports of entry in the United States have, or are in the process of receiving the technology to detect radiation. We're operating under a presidential mandate to screen 100% of people, conveyences and cargo for radiation.

Part of our equipment is the Radiation Portal Monitor or RPM. Information can be found here:

Radiation Portal Monitors Safeguard America from Nuclear Devices and Radiological Materials - CBP.gov

Since it's public knowledge, we are also issued personal radiation detectors or PRDs. According to this article, as of 2007 there were 14,000 of them in the field. All personnel are now required to be issued and use a PRD. A little more detail about our port security initiatives can be found here:

IEEE-USA Today's Engineer

 

[x-ray]

Thanks for saying I'm full of it or not. But implying I am -

So do you work for the CBP facility on Legrand Drive or something like that off Clements Ferry Rd near 526? Or do you work inthe yard.

I've been there with Dr Kahn - Your Radiation Specialist for such systems - If you can call him that there and other plac

We have many more portal monitrs and PRDs

I didn't get the agency alphapet name correct - as there about as many acronyms with that agency as one can get.

I am a technical guy - not a boot on the ground that develops and the equipment you use - sorry I 'm probably full of it from your perspective.

The uniform guys i"ve seen at CPB seem to watch a lot of daytime TV between breaks and occassional work. But i'm probably full of it on that too

 

[45FMJoe]

No, I didn't imply that. The capitalized BUT was me just ribbing you. No, I don't work off Clements Ferry I work in the docks. You may be a technical guy but to imply we don't screen cargo is absurd. Where would we watch this daytime TV? On our invisible TVs? Yes, seaports are a bit more "quiet" than a land border or airport but that doesn't mean we don't get it done. Every container is run through the VACIS and RPM. Every private plane is swept with a RIID. Every pleasure craft is inspected. If there isn't any work to do, personally I will take a car and go patrol. The port of Charleston has NEVER been beaten by a red man.

 

[x-ray]

I din't imply that cargo didn't screen ed at ports, rather implied too many other agencies within the US do and have likely more capabilty in the number of sources and points.

For example how did CPB allow those Radioactive tissue sources in the country only to be picked up by a state of California Highway patrolman - OK?

I guess not everything was screened by CBP or at least detected -

BTW There are several TVs , basketball hoops and rest areas off of clements ferry rd facility - Seen plenty of guys lounging there. There is no waste at the CBP - gotcha. Goverment and efficiency they are synonmous.

My point is in my opinion, there are quite a few of these detectors out there in volumes, many of them employed by those that don't understand them and may over react when they detect something innocuous or miss something the device can't see because it is not understood well enough by its user.

The point was there are numerous detectors out there that are employed (more numerous in volume than at the ports) that can and do detect radiation sources and can detect gauges in our trucks - the more of them are out there, the greater the likelood for someone to be caught up in a mess of red tape - I don't feel that is the intended purpose of the detectors, but rather, a consequence.

Thanks

 

[45FMJoe]

BTW There are several TVs , basketball hoops and rest areas off of clements ferry rd facility - Seen plenty of guys lounging there. There is no waste at the CBP - gotcha. Goverment and efficiency they are synonmous.

There isn't a single TV in that building, not even in our break room. I haven't walked the entire parking lot, but I haven't seen any basketball hoops either.

 

[41cl8m5]

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[x-ray]

Sure! No TVs and the basket ball hoop in the LD area. If you say so it must be true.

 

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[JimTheScot989]

radiation is the gift that keeps on giving, the only safe, prudent way to handle your situation is for a volunteer from the volunteer fire dept. to take the vehicles away for safe storage.

What?? Why?? Did you eradicate to storage all the BigBen alarm clocks?? How about the glo-in-the-dark exit signs in buildings? What about all those Timex wrist watches??

My point: May I suggest that we not be an alarmist and blow situations way out of the realm of reality.

 

[nmwildman013]

Somewhere in this thread someone asked if anyone had picked up a truck with no gauges.. About 18 months ago I did. I bought a set ahead of time and put them in prior to taking the truck. Hooked up the air, speedo, tack and oil pressure then took off. That truck had been overhauled in 1993.

 

[SuperJoe]

read this whole article. super excited about the gauges. waited till 2300 and went and checked. mine are black as midnight. i guess thats better but i think i will bring back the original look with some glow in the dark paint from home cheap-O. my truck was overhauled in 93. does anyone feel pulling them apart to add the paint is a bad idea, as in there may be some bad gasses or hazard in them i could expose myself to in this procedure
thanks
Joe

 

[Clay James]

My M109A3 came with no gauges. All the rest in the lot had none either so I'm guessing they just removed them all so they didn't have to check them, seems like a harder way of going about it but that's the way they did it.

 

[Lex_Ordo]

My original dueces guages were replaced when the truck was overhauled at Tooele, in 1986. Since I took delivery in 2008, the guage cluster never glowed in the dark.
However, in weapons sights, that contain tritium, most of the phosphorescent paint has a half-life of about 10 years, and then the glow is almost non-existent, if at all.

After I bought my truck, and went through the restoration, I decided to replace the cluster, and the guages, and added the M35A3 pannel, to get the extra panel light, (which was intended to be used as the parking brake light on the A3) and low air light.

I bought all the guages from Saturn Surplus, New, Old Stock, and none of these glow either.

I wonder if the guages were produced with an MWO, at some point, and the New ones did not contain the radium phosphorescents? Or they are just too old to still glow?

 

[dabtl]

Any military truck part taken to a scrap yard will be tested here. Mine have all been clean, thankfully.

 

[1 Patriot-of-many]

As a side note, there has to be some MV's that were exposed to radiation due to experiments unless there is some kind of protocol for this kind of situation, that doesn't involve DRMO.

new trucks for sale GL Contaminated Vehicles from the Chernobyl, get em cheap.

Bet those helicopters are off the scale!

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

Bumping this thread with a question....

I have stumbled upon information about a "Deuce" (might be a 5-Ton) that was parked some time back by the police department that owns it because it was RADIOACTIVE. I was contacted about it because they are looking for a way to "dispose" of it. As I understand, they might be looking for someone that they will PAY to take it way. I am considering applying to be that "lucky" person. Depending on the terms of the disposal contract, and if in fact it is only the Gauge Faces that kick the meters, I might be able to just replace the gauges to comply with their terms of release.

Does anyone have any FACTUAL information on the actual disposal of the readioactive guages once removed?
ANY FACTUAL contruibution are welcome and will be appreciated.

Thank you.
John

 

[JamesSummerville]

I would remove the gages yourself unless there cracked up exposed the insides, place them into something that won't let them slam into each other. Then call a local Hazmat team and they will come take it away at a price ushly. I recommend you remove the gages if the Hazmat guys do it they will probably tear it up.