Rear flap tie down failures

[warcow105]

A little over a year ago I bought a 4 door conversion straight from Breton. Now 3 of the 4 tie downs for the rear flap had the spring fail and can't be tightened. Has anyone else experienced this? Seems pretty bad quality for military use parts.


Michael

 

[DREDnot]

Yes. Especially the ones that are all plastic. Brought to you by the lowest bidder...at the insistence of you the taxpayer.

Im assuming you are talking about these POS things...

 

[Sjoconnor]

Yes. Especially the ones that are all plastic. Brought to you by the lowest bidder...at the insistence of you the taxpayer.

Im assuming you are talking about these POS things...

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I’m in the same boat. If someone knows the correct name for these thingamajigs let me know. They gotta be out there in metal.
Thx.

 

[osteo16]

Hmmm.... those appear to be very much alike/functioning as a “cinching tie down”. Bet you could make these work possibly ..

 

[Retiredwarhorses]

These have been failing since GMA had the market...I think they source them, because I’ve had both style, one version is literally garbage. I had an NOS M1102 top and everyone of them broke on the first try....luckily I had a bunch of old ones
that are better, I remove them from old tops I’m throwing away.

 

[DREDnot]

Who ever designed these things was a psychopath.
Hard to use new. Need two hands to loosen when soiled. Break easily. It has more modes of failure than moving parts....which is quite an accomplishment in itself. And the strap is usually to wide to go through the stupid "thing" on the body and too short to tie off if it did fit.

 

[Retiredwarhorses]

Who ever designed these things was a psychopath.
Hard to use new. Need two hands to loosen when soiled. Break easily. It has more modes of failure than moving parts....which is quite an accomplishment in itself. And the strap is usually to wide to go through the stupid "thing" on the body and too short to tie off if it did fit.

thats because the end is folded over and sewn so they don’t fall off....they fit, just have to work it, I’ve replaced many.

 

[DREDnot]

thats because the end is folded over and sewn so they don’t fall off....they fit, just have to work it, I’ve replaced many.

I was talking about if you broke a hook and didn't have a good one to replace it, you cant just use the bare strap to tie through the body loop as a field expedient

 

[Bulldogger]

They are called Ancra Buckles. I bought a bag of NOS mil spec ones from an eBay vendor but they're so flimsy I haven't bothered to install them.
I am not aware of a source for metal versions.
Bulldogger

 

[DREDnot]

They are called Ancra Buckles. I bought a bag of NOS mil spec ones from an eBay vendor but they're so flimsy I haven't bothered to install them.
I am not aware of a source for metal versions.
Bulldogger

That makes sense. Years ago, Ancra made the best motorcycle tie down straps with that kind of tensioner lock. I still have a set thats nearly 35 years old and still in better shape than much newer knockoffs.
These buckles are a sad perversion of their good name.

Ive never seen a full metal military buckle. Just the plastic body with a metal lever (old style) and the all plastic ones with the plastic lock lever.