Mine has enough to spin like crazy on dirt when hooked to a tree!!! That's when you engage the front axle, spin all 10 a little and then pull down the tree. It runs the 1/4 in about a minute with a trap speed of 50 miles per hour or so, on 11R20's, the fuels turned up, it's got a whistler, it's the BOMB!!! Question around this site has been, can you turn a LDT up to the point of performing like and LDS. I don't know the answer either but I do know that turning and LDT up helps quite a bit. An LDT makes 134 hp, 305 lb's of torque, and LDS makes 180 to 210 hp and 425 lb's of torque depending on application as quoted from the TM's. I'd like to think my LDT is hitting on more than 134 hp and way more than 305 lb torque just based on experiments involving towed 5 ton's at an off site government facility nowhere near the public around Groom Lake, just to see if a Deuce can do it.