Removing lug and budd nuts!

[Michael]

Preacherboy,

Don't know what side your working on but there are left and right handed threads on deuce wheel studs.

Just a FYI......just in case.

Good luck and be safe..

That's the way it is suppose to be. I have read on here that sometimes the wrong wheel studs are pressed into the hubs and they can be backwards from what they should be or even mixed up on one hub.

 

[jimm1009]

The studs are marked with and L or and R on the end. Knock the paint off and you should see the stamped mark.
The nuts are usually marked too but it is lighter and harder to read.
If you are facing the side of the truck look down at the top of the wheel stud. If the threads point out towards your right shoulder then they are left hand threads.
If the threads point out towards your left shoulder then they are standard right hand threads.
jimm1009

 

[Preacherboy]

Preacherboy,

Don't know what side your working on but there are left and right handed threads on deuce wheel studs.

Just a FYI......just in case.

Good luck and be safe..

Thanks, although I did have an understanding of this...all of mine so far have been stamped L or R and have been on the proper side.

 

[KaiserM109]

I'm not knocking you guys at all OIFVET and Ace but here in equatorland I'm forced to use the loud wrenches and fast jacks so that I can change a tire before I dehydrate. It's not the 900° that kills you, its the 400% humidity. I can't wait for the 3rd season to get here, right now we are running 2 seasons at once, summer and hurricane. The 3rd season is January.

Thanks, I needed that! I needed to be reminded why I turned down a good job offer in Sarasota. I was beginning to waver.

I have a problem, searched for it...this seems to be the best thread to ask it in. ojsdna744 came over and bought some tires from me and brought his torque multiplier wrench to break loose some lug nuts. We got all the lug nuts loose and started on the budd nuts at which point one was extremely difficult to get off. We tried really hard and all the sudden it got really easy.

What happened was surprising, the end of the budd twisted off, not totally, but close...now what steps do I take to get it off?

Now you’re scaring me. I have a flat on an inside duel; it was flat when I picked up the truck. All I have is the Army issue wrench that another SS member gave me at Norman, OK when we were preparing to take Bushman5000’s M109 home.

That's the way it is suppose to be. I have read on here that sometimes the wrong wheel studs are pressed into the hubs and they can be backwards from what they should be or even mixed up on one hub.

On an M37 the front brake drums with the studs are interchangeable with the rear. In SE Asia I had an M37 where someone had switched the left front with the right rear. Both front wheels had right hand lugs and both rear wheels had left hand lugs.

Arlyn

 

[StreetbikeDepot]

I use a 1" drive impact and run it off the air on the truck........leave that lug wrench in the toolbox.

 

[gimpyrobb]

An easy way to remember is, turning toward the front of the truck tightens and toward the rear of the truck loosens. This is if your wrench is at the 12:00 position.

 

[doghead]

An easy way to remember is, turning toward the front of the truck tightens and toward the rear of the truck loosens. This is if your wrench is at the 12:00 position.

AM or PM?

I try not to work on my truck after dark.


Here's my favorite 12 am position.

 

[gimpyrobb]

Noon is nap time at the nursing home huh?

 

[rlwm211]

torque multiplier a must

I have a torque multiplier and I use it to remove and tighten my lugs and inners.

I do not use air tools and here is why.

If you have a flat on the road and have to fix it, you may not be able to get the lugs and or inners off if they are run down with a 1" impact gun.

The fact is that the air impact gun most likely places too much torque on the lugs and inners anways.

I know if I put the lugs and inners on with my torque multiplier I can get them off with my torque multiplier.

I carry that tool in my truck always.

Just my two cents
RL

 

[Preacherboy]

I have a torque multiplier and I use it to remove and tighten my lugs and inners.

I do not use air tools and here is why.

If you have a flat on the road and have to fix it, you may not be able to get the lugs and or inners off if they are run down with a 1" impact gun.

The fact is that the air impact gun most likely places too much torque on the lugs and inners anways.

I know if I put the lugs and inners on with my torque multiplier I can get them off with my torque multiplier.

I carry that tool in my truck always.

Just my two cents
RL

Which torque multiplier do you use? I know they are very expensive. Northern Tool and Equipment has one for about $250 though, but it is a no name brand...Harbor Freight sells the same brand on their website only for $199.

 

[rlwm211]

I found mine on Ebay for about 100$ shipped.

RL

 

[firefox]

I have the military issue one that is talked about in the
PS article available on SS. I had to make the tube that is supposed to come with it.
Bruce

 

[firefox]

Be warry of tire shops. They use the big air impact wrenches and torque the nuts on way too tight. The big rigs
have the nuts put on at really high torques and these guys don't understand about MV's or the fact that we might be changing a flat with hand tools out in the boonies. Don't ask how come I know this...
Bruce

 

[rlwm211]

I got the both the short and the long handles for mine when I bought it. It was a civilian tool apparently, but is exactly the same as the military one.

When I did my PM on the bearings this spring, I found that one 'corner' had the lugs and inners on so tight I had to use a 6 foot handle to get them to break loose. Then one of the fronts was so loose I could take them off with my fingers. Go figure.

RL

 

[DUECE-COUPE]

I used a deuce lug wrench, a jack stand, the bar, and the main bar from an old bumper jack. set it up like the video, heat it a nice red, then Babe Ruth the bar (in the right direction). works for me and keeps you from bending the bar in a "U" shape.

 

[gimpyrobb]

Do you guys know the correct torque to tighten the lugnuts to? Do you have the torque wrench to do it?

 

[doghead]

400-450 ft/lbs

I use the basic laws of physics(instead of a torque wrench).

A 4' pipe and 200 lbs at the 2' to 3' mark

 

[firefox]

This is what butch atkins said when I asked about lug nuts on a M211:

with the issue 30 inch bar and stud/lugnut wrench a200lb man bouncing on it can produce all the torque you will ever need to tighten these nuts,and if you doit yourself you will always be able to change a flat tire if yopu have to,saw an interesting sight at ga mvpa rally ,military air ratchets breaking sockets,5 foot cheater bars bending theissue 30 inch bar and lugnut wrench,double reduction ratchets couldnt break the nuts loose,moral of the story,ONLY USE THE ISSUE BAR ,STUD/ LUGNUT WRENCH WHEN TORQUEING YOUR LUGNUTS/STUDS,OR YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO REMOVE THEM WHEN YOU HAVE TO,next question ,tm 9-8024,page 472 pharagraph 259 inner nuts 400to 450 ft lbs,outer lugnuts the same,never let anyone put a 1inch drive air ratchet and socket to tighten your lug nuts,the military issued a WRENCH ,ORD PART # 7950644,and a HANDLE,wheel brng adj,and wheel stud/ lug nut wrench 3/4 in in dia,30 in long,ORD # 41-h 1541-10,fed stk # 5120-243-2419,page 7 ,ORD 7 SNL G-749,JUST HAD TO CHIME IN ON THIS ONE ,GOOD LUCK TO ALL ON THEIR PROJECTS

 

[Preacherboy]

FF, I do not plan on tightening up the lug nuts with some high torque impact wrench, I just need to get the things broke loose! So far no luck, I got a guy bringing me a torch to heat things up though.

 

[airmech3839]

Impact

I use a 1" drive impact and run it off the air on the truck........leave that lug wrench in the toolbox.

Amen!!

My 1" impact is awesome!!! makes changing tires so much easier!!