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Securing your MTVR? anyone installing locks? ignition keys?

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I don't know if I have a record of the part number, but I looked it up again. I'm finding Velvac part number 600169-1 and 600169-6.

Any brand of aluminum 4" non-vented female 8 thread per inch locking fuel cap will work. The numbers I gave above, may cross over to other brands if you do a little digging...
 

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Looks Like Sloan 431006 (SLN431006) cross references to Velvac 600169-6
Aluminum Locking Fuel Cap, Female, Non-Vented, 4" Nominal Size, 8 Threads Per Inch | Velvac

Options:
Locking, Non-Vented
Material: Aluminum
Nominal Size: 8"
Threads Per Inch: 8
Across Threads - Filler Neck (inches):4-7/16"
Across Threads - Cap (inches):4-3/8"
Note:For diesel applications only.


One of the least expensive sources found so far:
4" Fuel Cap, Aluminum, Locking - Triple "R" Truck Parts (triplertruckparts.com) $65
 
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The door handle with lock is available, just not cheap at over $100 each. Here is a link https://www.ebay.com/itm/Oshkosh-31...050096?hash=item41d76bf270:g:IRoAAOSwcj1aQ655

The striker plate is available too. https://mpparts.com/part/oshkosh-3192882-cab-door-striker-3192882

I am buying the air brake knob lock too. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B..._title_srh_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I bought better door handles for my FMTV from Austinhardware.com. there's tons of door handles on there probably the same one that the MTVR uses is commercially available for less than half the price. They come with locks and keys also
 

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I bought better door handles for my FMTV from Austinhardware.com. there's tons of door handles on there probably the same one that the MTVR uses is commercially available for less than half the price. They come with locks and keys also
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Sure would be nice to figure out what the MTVR handles are in the commercial world...
 

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Sure would be nice to figure out what the MTVR handles are in the commercial world...
Well give us a picture of em ! I have run slap the hell out of something to do so give me a mission ! Who mfg the cab it should be on something maybe in the door facing they usually dont get out of their comfort zone unless someone request a certain part they dont normally use!
 

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I've contacted the account manager of a commercial supplier of automotive door handles with photos of the handle to see if they can figure it out. If so they should be about half the price that the guy on eBay was selling them for. They helped me with handles for my M1083. I'll let you know if they reply with a match.
 

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Well give us a picture of em ! I have run slap the hell out of something to do so give me a mission ! Who mfg the cab it should be on something maybe in the door facing they usually dont get out of their comfort zone unless someone request a certain part they dont normally use!
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Well by golly...

Here are some pictures!

01 - MTVR Outside.jpg 02 - MTVR Outside Open.jpg 03 - MTVR Inside.jpg 04 - MTVR Outside Inside.jpg

Don't know that anybody needs the inside latch picture, but somebody may know more with how this thing is configured with those two pics. AND there is a place for a lock - if you knew what kind of lock you (we) would need.
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If you search online for TriMark 030-1400 or 030-1450, they look extremely similar.


if you go to the product page there's the technical specifications with the cutout size and the linkage points etc. I'm pretty sure this one will work so long as it fits in the same hole it also mounts in an upright configuration like the MTVR handle.
On Amazon and eBay the same handle is also available in all black which of course then you can paint to whatever you like. And with keys. If you buy it from Austin hardware after confirming that it works they can send you a left and right set with matching keys.
 

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If you search online for TriMark 030-1400 or 030-1450, they look extremely similar.


if you go to the product page there's the technical specifications with the cutout size and the linkage points etc. I'm pretty sure this one will work so long as it fits in the same hole it also mounts in an upright configuration like the MTVR handle.
On Amazon and eBay the same handle is also available in all black which of course then you can paint to whatever you like. And with keys. If you buy it from Austin hardware after confirming that it works they can send you a left and right set with matching keys.
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Agreed that they look similar.
The link you sent was for a "two point" and the one on the truck is a "one point".

The link looks a lot like the LMTV handle.

Might be that I could spend the time to remove one and get more details.
Maybe a casting number or something similar...
 

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Agreed that they look similar.
The link you sent was for a "two point" and the one on the truck is a "one point".

The link looks a lot like the LMTV handle.

Might be that I could spend the time to remove one and get more details.
Maybe a casting number or something similar...
Yeah they often have more points than needed you use the ones you need and just leave blank or cut off the ones you don't.
 

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If you search online for TriMark 030-1400 or 030-1450, they look extremely similar.


if you go to the product page there's the technical specifications with the cutout size and the linkage points etc. I'm pretty sure this one will work so long as it fits in the same hole it also mounts in an upright configuration like the MTVR handle.
On Amazon and eBay the same handle is also available in all black which of course then you can paint to whatever you like. And with keys. If you buy it from Austin hardware after confirming that it works they can send you a left and right set with matching keys.
has anyone confirmed it that will fit our MTVR's? thank you
 

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Some really good ideas here.

I do like the idea of a physical chain around door handles / something similar - at a distant glance someone can tell that its going to be a lot harder than just opening door and hopping in. Cons - someone determined will now know to bring more tools. Pros - just making it harder, slowing someone down enough to make it not worthwhile is often enough.

The idea of spray painting batt switch, making it less obvious is very good one. I think on top of that putting small (non descript) cover over it would be good too.

If you put small electric kill switch on it, that can be about the ultimate theft deterrent. Small switch that unless its flipped truck wont run. Now, a determined thief will indeed look around for that, but if you put it in place thats not reachable from drivers seat, maybe not even in the cab at all, the odds of them finding it are about zero (unless they had video of you starting the thing i suppose).

One of the power wires on ecm, maybe THE main power wire on ecm (pin70), if that one is not powered the truck will still crank over, but will NEVER start bc the ecm and therefore injectors arent powered up. Do NOT quote me on that, but i remember chasing this detail around on my mk25, when the ecm shit the bed and i was trying to figure out WTF was wrong (and i didnt have scan tool / cat ET at that time either, which made things a lot harder / made me chase down and try as many mechanical / hands on things as i could).

Put a switch on that wire, put switch somewhere u cant reach from cab, no one is going to find it. Put it outside cab, in spotnear where you grab handles to climb in and out of truck, and you can hit switch as you get in and out with a subtle enough movement that even if someone was watching u start truck they might not even see you do it.

Downsides to that (which my ocd ass would worry about) is the idea of switch being accidentally tripped while truck running, id worry about frying ecm. Lots of electronic things HATE being suddenly switched off while running. Can certainly cause power surges/spikes .... id hate to give these ecms another excuse to pop!!


ONE THING I DONT THINK ANYONE MENTIONED YET, BUT IS ALMOST FREE, AND WOULD STOP 99.9% OF PEOPLE - On the batteries there is a connector between the battery lugs to connect the two batteries... only way to make 24v w two batts. Simple way is to just unbolt one side of the connector so it doesnt touch, make connection. A bit more work is to just unbolt connector and take it with you. The REALLY sneaky thing that almost no one would find (wo a bunch of searching, diagnosing) is to make a FAKE connector.

Might be something like a real connector that has maybe an inch of its electrical core cut out (so it doesnt make electrical connection), with something put in its place to fill in that gap (like fuel line), and big heat shrink put over that so from outside it looks about normal.

Unbolt real connector (only two bolts), bolt fake connector in. Then batts dont actually electrically connect between them = no power to anything. Only a couple mins, need only one wrench

Now, i have two big ass batteries in my box, i hear the .mil trucks run 4 batts, cant remember if its 4 12-volt batts or maybe 4 6-volt batts, whatever, you might need to make two fake connectors to do this on a 4 battery setup (depending on how batts are wired), but still, pretty fast and easy to hook / unhook.

As for fuel cap, it would be easy to fab little locking box to go around outside of cap, keep cap from being removed unless box is unlocked. And make it so box cant be spun around and cap removed that way. Multiple ways to make something to make something that keeps stock cap (so no corrosion issues), but makes it so that you cant easily remove stock cap.

Anyways. Enough rambling, just happened to see this thread and it made a bunch of ideas spark in my lil brain :)
 
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