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GeneralDisorder

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Who in the free world would own a POS like a honda element?
They are ugly as sin and I wouldn't own one, but I did have a customer with 470k miles on the original drivetrain. Hard to call it a POS.

I may not like it and I may not want one and I may even disagree with owning a foreign car in general but anything that can last that long on the original drivetrain can't really be classified as a POS.
 

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They are ugly as sin and I wouldn't own one, but I did have a customer with 470k miles on the original drivetrain. Hard to call it a POS.

I may not like it and I may not want one and I may even disagree with owning a foreign car in general but anything that can last that long on the original drivetrain can't really be classified as a POS.
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Sad but true.

The old guys who had their A$$ bombed off by the japs in pearl harbor still carry the resentment. I wasn't old enough to be there and most of us still alive today aren't either - but there are a few who still remember...

Even stranger - and nobody has been able to show me proof - but I can't help but wonder if the takeover of real estate in New York by the japanese in the 80's wasn't a manufactured crash...
 

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They are ugly as sin and I wouldn't own one, but I did have a customer with 470k miles on the original drivetrain. Hard to call it a POS.

I may not like it and I may not want one and I may even disagree with owning a foreign car in general but anything that can last that long on the original drivetrain can't really be classified as a POS.
Honda are very reliable, perhaps even one of the most reliable cars out there. That doesn’t make them a POS. That honor comes from other attributes. Mostly the fact that they are from overseas and I don’t like them.
 

GeneralDisorder

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Honda are very reliable, perhaps even one of the most reliable cars out there. That doesn’t make them a POS. That honor comes from other attributes. Mostly the fact that they are from overseas and I don’t like them.
Actually the Honda Element was produced in East Liberty, Ohio for the US market.

This is now a global economy. Guess which pickup truck is the "most American" now?


Yep. It's the Toyota Tundra. More American parts and more American labor than the F150. And if we are honest - it's more reliable too.

The "brand" on things is meaningless in a globalized economy. Parts come from all over the world. The iPhone is composed of parts from 43 countries on 6 continents. Very likely the computer or phone or whatever device you are posting in this very forum from is no different.

Cars are no different from any other high tech device. In Detroit, the average car and it's parts makes 7 border crossings with Canada just to get built into a deliverable product.
 
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spankybear

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Who in the free world would own a POS like a honda element?
POS... Yeah the POS starter only lasted 320,000 miles... The only issues I have had. They are AWESOME cars and there is no daily drives with the head room that have. I need the head room. I wish I can find another with low miles... that isn't $$$$$$. They do VERY well in the snow (LMTV can't say that) a TON of room inside. The Honda K engine is one of the best engines on the road. I have 340,000 miles on it and the only issue has been the starter. Everything else is original (well besides wear items like brakes and tires.)

Yep POS I say
 

spankybear

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Honda are very reliable, perhaps even one of the most reliable cars out there. That doesn’t make them a POS. That honor comes from other attributes. Mostly the fact that they are from overseas and I don’t like them.
My Honda is more US made than any Chevy, ford or Fiat Chrysler. today...
 

spankybear

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Actually the Honda Element was produced in East Liberty, Ohio for the US market.

This is now a global economy. Guess which pickup truck is the "most American" now?


Yep. It's the Toyota Tundra. More American parts and more American labor than the F150. And if we are honest - it's more reliable too.

The "brand" on things is meaningless in a globalized economy. Parts come from all over the world. The iPhone is composed of parts from 43 countries on 6 continents. Very likely the computer or phone or whatever device you are posting in this very forum from is no different.

Cars are no different from any other high tech device. In Detroit, the average car and it's parts makes 7 border crossings with Canada just to get built into a deliverable product.
And speaking of Tundras,,, They do not have any head room. I am a tall guy and I need head room. The Element blows the Tundra out of the water head room wise.
 

spankybear

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They are ugly as sin and I wouldn't own one, but I did have a customer with 470k miles on the original drivetrain. Hard to call it a POS.

I may not like it and I may not want one and I may even disagree with owning a foreign car in general but anything that can last that long on the original drivetrain can't really be classified as a POS.
They are Ugly??!?!??? You obviously haven't seen too many new cars of today?
 

spankybear

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Here is a tear down of the POS K engine... One thing for sure... This ain't no Ford 3 valve 5.4 "titan" engine...
 
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