Starting without glow plugs?

[CucvFML]

Dead on the road in the middle of a 1200 mile trip. This morning the glow plugs didn't cycle. Is there any way to start a m1009 without using the glow plugs? Maybe the wd-40 trick or something, has anyone ever done anything like this?

 

[Speddmon]

I can't say with 100% certainty, but I think you may have other issues at play here. I would think the truck should still start without the glow plugs. It's not that cold out yet. Unless you are in the great white north.

 

[Whitfield]

PO lit mine off today with the quickest sniff of start fluid and glow plugs disabled. I'm hoping others will let me know if this is wrong as I'll be starting it on my own in 36 hrs.

 

[Skinny]

Why not just jumper the GP solenoid to ground which will get them turned on. Then just run around and crank it over. Shouldn't take more than a short piece of wire and a pocket knife. This is totally assuming that the solenoid and power supply works. If that is the case, substitute small piece of wire for large piece of wire

 

[dstang97]

beat me to it


do you have a bad card or bad relay. And you need glow plugs unless the motor is warmed up. If it is a bad card grab a piece of wire like 3 feet strip both ends. Turn the key to run then put one end of the wire to the blue wire on the relay then ground out the other end somewhere for 15 seconds then start your truck. if it is a bad relay bypass the relay.

 

[uscgmatt]

The glow plug card sends the ground to the relay. Pull the card, then determine which small terminal is hot, then ground the other one for 10 seconds and see if it starts. Good luck. I'm not a fan of starting fluid, too many problems.


Edit. Man i'm slow at typing.

 

[Warthog]

PO lit mine off today with the quickest sniff of start fluid and glow plugs disabled. I'm hoping others will let me know if this is wrong as I'll be starting it on my own in 36 hrs.

Using ether in a 22:1 high compression engine is asking for trouble. Broken pistons, broken rod other things can happen.

If the Glowplugs are enabled you can cause quite and explosion.

Here is a example of using ether in a diesel engine.

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/cucv/94808-cucv-starter-fluid.html

 

[lavarok]

A little gas on a rag near the intake will work in a pinch when your glow plugs fail.

I stress a little and do not remove the air filter or housing. The last thing you want is a rag sucked into your intake.....

 

[CucvFML]

Card and relay are both bad. Im good untill friday, at that point i wont have enough money to stay or get home. Calling for high of 58 on friday.

 

[kingchr]

If the relay is bad, I would just get a piece of large wire (like 2 gauge or something) and strip both ends of a 3" piece, then jumper across the relay on the firewall... If the glowplugs themselves are good, that should turn them on and heat it up, like others have said a count of 15 should do it...

Good luck, please tell us how it turns out,
Christopher

 

[WillowRun]

Where are you at? I'm by Lansing (born and raised in Bay City) and I'm sure I could talk you through getting voltage to the GP's to at least get it started. All you'll need is about 4 feet of heavy gage wire. If you're anywhere close to down here I could come and give you a hand and bring a slave cable with me.

 

[doghead]

Why not replace the bad relay(under $30), and use a temporary wire to ground the light blue wire to operate the GPs?(temporary manual operation of the relay)

 

[SETOYOTA]

a sniff of starting fluid and your golden.

 

[wayne pick]

PO lit mine off today with the quickest sniff of start fluid and glow plugs disabled. I'm hoping others will let me know if this is wrong as I'll be starting it on my own in 36 hrs.

Yea, a real bad practice. Perhaps PO has been starting it this way all along? Better find out. If the answer is yes, walk away from it.

 

[Whitfield]

Yea, a real bad practice. Perhaps PO has been starting it this way all along? Better find out. If the answer is yes, walk away from it.

That must be how PO stripped the flywheel teeth off the ring gear on the other truck on first start from auction. He claimed he hit the key and WHAM!

 

[wayne pick]

Some day he will hit the key and BAM! He is a savage, Either get your money back if you have already paid for it, or find another truck.

 

[Goose2448]

I start my 7.3L everyday with out them. It will even fire off into the high 20s like that, it just takes a while, I generally let them cycle though. Its not going to hurt anything if you start with out them. It just might take a bit longer. Get home and see whats up. You have a good starting list.

 

[wayne pick]

a sniff of starting fluid and your golden.

That's good advice for the newbe.

 

[WILDBOY6X6]

agree

HI GUY I agree with matt,about starting fluid but if you do try it make SURE you crank the engine as you give it a small amount. To mutch then cranking it can cause what I saw at a cal guard shop once,a dump trk that someone did that then when they cranked it over it blew the heads off the block.

 

[dependable]

If you have even one glow plug working, you can do damage with either. Anyone who does not understand the system well enough to jump the red wire down to the orange ones on the glow plug solenoid probably does not know enough to make sure glow plug system is disabled.