Gotta hand it to the drug cartels. They are creative:
BBC News - Drug running tanks seized by Mexican authorities
BBC News - Drug running tanks seized by Mexican authorities
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Just outlaw them, and shoot on sight with anti-tank weapons. Nobody who is legal needs such a thing, neither here nor there. For me, it's not a very inventive thing, its and out and out declaration of open warfare. One inch steel plates, but still normal tires. A good machine gun or a grenade underneath it should do the trick nicely, thank you.
Problem is, as long as there are rich and spoiled Europeans and Americans willing to pay crazy amounts to sniff something up their nose, the market will provide.
Uh, no. That's not it at all. It's for internal use only.Amazing vehicles, just upsetting to know they are ment to be used against us in the US.
Would not mind getting into a discussion on that over a beer. Besides, I think many US citizens would agree with what I said (which was a bit black and white, I agree).
Well.......... I'm glad you don't get to vote here.
The drugs they transport are not for internal use, they are ment for distribution on US soil.Uh, no. That's not it at all. It's for internal use only.
Does that mean my Scorpion, Ferret, Fox, Dingo and V100 are to be outlawed and shot on sight too?Just outlaw them, and shoot on sight with anti-tank weapons. Nobody who is legal needs such a thing, neither here nor there. For me, it's not a very inventive thing, its and out and out declaration of open warfare. One inch steel plates, but still normal tires. A good machine gun or a grenade underneath it should do the trick nicely, thank you.
Problem is, as long as there are rich and spoiled Europeans and Americans willing to pay crazy amounts to sniff something up their nose, the market will provide.
Does that mean my Scorpion, Ferret, Fox, Dingo and V100 are to be outlawed and shot on sight too?
Would not mind getting into a discussion on that over a beer. Besides, I think many US citizens would agree with what I said (which was a bit black and white, I agree).
I focused more on its use than on its "BOBBED MV" character. Then again, you probably would not want that thing to turn up in your neighborhood either. It would be taking the 2nd amendment a bit far.
Some more details on those trucks. In another article, they mention that til now these vehicles are used ONLY in inter-gang wars and not against the army. Want to bet how long until that changes?
They have been looking too much to Mad Max and the A-team.
"The Mexican media call these Los Monstruos “tanks,” and not without reason. One discovered in April had room inside for 12 gangsters, with “two turrets on top and six lateral firing ports” built in. Others are cruder, resembling up-armored SUVs that can withstand “rounds from M-16 and AK-47s,” according to one report.
Still, our pal Paul McLeary thinks that’s not quite accurate — not least of which because these are wheeled vehicles, not tracked ones. A Monstruo captured last month looks “more like the down-on-its-luck little cousin of an MRAP or MAT-V than an Abrams or a Leopard,” Paul observes.
Either way, expect to see one of these on, say, season six of Breaking Bad".
Originally Posted by Robo McDuffStalwart:
With all due respect, Sir, these targets are found in HOSTILE territory and therefore qualify as THREATS. Within our typical areas of operation, and the circumstances and modes in which we operate, our MVs are NO COMPARISON to the thread topic vehicles here.
Your raise a valid point of distinction that we MUST maintain here.
John
I already tried to indicate and will say it clearly now; that statement was a bit too black and white, and everybody is welcome to its hobbies. Tanks are not my kick, but some of the tracked vehicles of our fellow SS members really look nice and my regret is that I never got a chance to race around in a tank.Originally Posted by Robo McDuff
Just outlaw them, and shoot on sight with anti-tank weapons. Nobody who is legal needs such a thing, neither here nor there
I think this was the part of his statement that was bothersome.
Of course armoring a truck to transport drugs is not a hobby. However if I wanted to up armor my A3 for fun, S**** and giggles, or to prepare for whatever paranoid fantasy I can think of....... it's still no ones business but my own.I already tried to indicate and will say it clearly now; that statement was a bit too black and white, and everybody is welcome to its hobbies. Tanks are not my kick, but some of the tracked vehicles of our fellow SS members really look nice and my regret is that I never got a chance to race around in a tank.
Changing a truck into an armored vehicle to protect drug transports or fight out who will dominate the drug market and make the biggest profit shipping drugs to the USA is not a hobby but a THREAT that should be taken care off BEFORE it enters the country.
I did not want to get into it, but now I will make my opinion clear. I do up to a point agree with the second amendment. A lot of my US and Canadian friends have arms at home and I would like to go hunting with them if possible.
I do not agree with the idea of the second amendment as a free ticket for each and every individual to buy, have, and use whatever you want up to and beyond fully automatic heavy combat weapons. The amendment was never intended for that.
The idea that people are responsible for their own actions I agree with, but society has become too complicated for each individual to oversee all its complications and therefore some rules are introduced as compromise and to indicate borders SOCIETY agreed on. That those borders will infringe on personal freedom is clear, the discussion is where those borders should be.
On a lighter tone, I would probably come help you clean up the welding.
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