The bottom line: nobody makes hubs for a 5 ton??

[DanielP]

Does anyone make lockout hubs for 5 tons? If the answer is no, that might be the deciding factor in convincing me to plan for a deuce rather than a 5 ton.

 

[powerhouseduece]

I have not seen a set before but that doesent mean they done exist. If you can't find them one thing you can do is find a set of front drive flanges and put them on a lathe to bore the splines out of them. The first Deuce I ever owned had a sprag t-case and thats what I did. The extra drive flanges come in handy too for flat towing. you can just pull the rear axle shafts and bolt the flanges right up! Thats a hell of a lot better then climbing under the truck and un bolting the driveshafts!

I don't think hub's should keep you out of a 5 ton. ( Drive a deuce and then drive a 5 ton and you'll know what I mean)



Just my

 

[BKubu]

John Winslow (252-883-2509) has developed a kit to allow a 5 ton with a sprag to "free-wheel" so that the sprag is disengaged completly. This means that is OK to allow the truck to roll backwards in a forward gear and forward in reverse. It is not the same as having a lockout, but there is a noticeable increase in power. Check with John. I bet he could install the kit on any M809 truck...or he might sell the kit for you to install.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Does anyone make lockout hubs for 5 tons?

In my entire life, I had only seen one set of lock-outs for a five ton. So I know they do exist, though be it rare. So good luck finding a set......and if you do I'll bet they fetch huge $$$$

 

[USMC6062]

Yes they exist. A place called Spare Parts and Equipment Inc (859-266-218 in Kentucky still make them from the original Warn molds. I called and talked to the guy, and he made it sound like they are a hot item and he had another batch being made by the end of the week. I'm sure someone would buy them, but at $1250 each, yes that's $1250 EACH, I won't be buying any. Another company called Gearthart Engineering said they are planning on making some in the future, but didn't say what the cost would be. I have a picture a guy sent me of some original Warn hubs.

 

[USMC6062]

I don't know where that stupid smily face came from, but I can't get rid of it. The number is 859-266-2188

 

[DanielP]

Thank you very much for the info. Those Warn converts are pricey! I figure on a bobbed 5 ton I would but Detroits front and rear, and hubs all around so that I can lock in on a wheel by wheel basis. But that is $5K worth of hubs. Yikes.

 

[GoHot229]

Can you have the insides of the stockers milled to de-spline them like some of the Deuce guys do? Then with a 'good' set (with splines) and one without you could choose to freewheel or not, just a fiew bolts, its off and back on, and a gasket now and again. You could probably get a gasket to live longer with some silicone too.

 

[USMC6062]

They used to use these hubs on monster trucks in the 80's. I was looking at a spec sheet for and 80's monster truck and it had listed 5 ton rockwell axles with warn locking hubs. Keep an eye out for old monster truck parts, you may run across a set.

 

[Blood_of_Tyrants]

I don't know where that stupid smily face came from, but I can't get rid of it. The number is 859-266-2188

You got it because you put an 8 next to a right parentheses ). Put a space between the 8 and the ) and it will be fine.

 

[rizzo]

anyone else interested in 5 ton lockouts? Maybe we can convince someone to make them if there are a lot of people interested. send me a PM.

 

[jwaller]

I am but only if you can get the price down to deuce hub levels.

 

[M1075]

I expect the deuce hub price level is unreasonable. Maybe a pair for a $1000?

 

[USMC6062]

I would buy a pair if they were around $800 or so.

 

[Scout]

If the front axle is disconnected from the tires, and therefore not rotating, won't the transfer case sprag engage and drive the front end anyway (as though on a slippery surface where the rear tire speed would exceed the front)? So you're still driving the whole front-end, but not scrubbing tires on hard surfaces. And if that's the case (unless you have a front locker) you would only need to disengage/remove/modify one hub - right?

 

[area52]

If the front axle is disconnected from the tires, and therefore not rotating, won't the transfer case sprag engage and drive the front end anyway (as though on a slippery surface where the rear tire speed would exceed the front)? So you're still driving the whole front-end, but not scrubbing tires on hard surfaces. And if that's the case (unless you have a front locker) you would only need to disengage/remove/modify one hub - right?

Yes thats why you would need to cut off the air to the transfer case to "disable" the sprag.

 

[Trango]

Pardon the pun, but has there been any traction on the idea of lockouts? I'd be quite interested in lockouts for the 5 ton, if they are available.

 

[wehring]

air lock on 900 series

Lets not forget the airlock t-case on the 900 series. These are BEGGING for lockers and locking hubs.

Justin Wehring
979 997 3112

 

[DMgunn]

I would pay $1000 at the very most for a set....but I would pay it.

 

[Floridianson]

Can you have the insides of the stockers milled to de-spline them like some of the Deuce guys do? Then with a 'good' set (with splines) and one without you could choose to freewheel or not, just a fiew bolts, its off and back on, and a gasket now and again. You could probably get a gasket to live longer with some silicone too.

I like this Idea the best.

If you have them desplined would you have the make it bigger and have a bushing installed then reamed to true axle figures?