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About 1-1/2 years ago I could by fresh restaurant fryer oil for less than $14.00/35 lb (4.6 gallons), now it's over $22.00!!!
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Veggie oil way up in price....
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They used to give it away from the local restaurants here a year or so ago. Now everyone thinks used veggie oil is gold, and, get this, a few local places charge $3.00 a gallon for it! What's up with that?
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Remember that value is only what you make it. There a more people buying items on ebay for more than their worth then 5 years ago. Everything on ebay is cheaper right!!!
Got to love the new world.. It's only getting better.
Got to love the new world.. It's only getting better.
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Maybe you are seeing the economic ripples, from the bio fuels eating into the food production.
They are already seeing a large environmental impact.
Something about corn being a very thirsty crop.
They are already seeing a large environmental impact.
Something about corn being a very thirsty crop.
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Corn is being used more and more for the production of ethanal I saw an OP-ED piece on the fact that more farmers are planting corn where they used to plant barley and now the price of beer will be going up as well. I don't think my deuce would run on beer so that doesnt bother me.
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Law of supply and demand. Simple economics. Everybody has been told that veggie oil will save the world and now everybody wants it.
Also you are competing with big companies that make bio-fuels that can enter into long-term contracts with the veggie oil producers to get their oil at a price lower than you can buy it (volume discount).
No mystery here. Just capitalism working at its best.
Also you are competing with big companies that make bio-fuels that can enter into long-term contracts with the veggie oil producers to get their oil at a price lower than you can buy it (volume discount).
No mystery here. Just capitalism working at its best.
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Last year I sold my soybeans for $5.25 a bushel. Yesterday I could have sold this years crop for $11.41 a bu. And they are headed up to even higher prices.
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Guess it's not so good to use a food for fuel....
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Well, it would seem to depend on the food.
This table gives oil production in units of gallons/acre for various crops.
Not only land area but all inputs to production, such as fuel and labor, should be considered when comparing oil crops. But that table does suggest that there are better and worse crop choices for use as biodiesel feedstocks and that soy oil is toward the worse end.
I was surprised to see that Chinese tallow- which grows in California, Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, North or South Carolina, and Florida- yields 699 gallons of oil a year per acre. One could drive a vehicle which gets 10 miles/gallon 6,990 miles per year on one acre's crop. An acre of soy, in comparison, would get you 480 miles. Growers in cooler climates could get 1,910 miles on an acre of pecans.
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Here's a technology to watch...
Anything that grows 'can convert into oil'
Company finds natural solution that turns plants into gasoline
After three years of clandestine development, a Georgia company is now going public with a simple, natural way to convert anything that grows out of the Earth into oil.
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59402
Anything that grows 'can convert into oil'
Company finds natural solution that turns plants into gasoline
After three years of clandestine development, a Georgia company is now going public with a simple, natural way to convert anything that grows out of the Earth into oil.
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59402
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RE: Here
"Soylent geen is us" quote from Charleton Heston in the movie.
My wishes are with him........
I've been told that if we tried to convert enough ground to plant oil production, we'd have no water for food crops........
"Soylent geen is us" quote from Charleton Heston in the movie.
My wishes are with him........
I've been told that if we tried to convert enough ground to plant oil production, we'd have no water for food crops........
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Course, a lot of people miss the point that the fiber "cake" left after the oil extraction makes a great livestock base feedstock. Lower in fat and higher in protein (on a per lb basis) than the original grain crop. Same for certain human foods, such a cereals.
Course, a lot of people miss the point that the fiber "cake" left after the oil extraction makes a great livestock base feedstock. Lower in fat and higher in protein (on a per lb basis) than the original grain crop. Same for certain human foods, such a cereals.
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Latest info I have shows a cubie of restaurant fryer oil now at $25.00, that's $5.43/gallon....
Latest info I have shows a cubie of restaurant fryer oil now at $25.00, that's $5.43/gallon....
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Does anyone have an idea of what a gallon of veggie oil weighs??
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Yes. 7.61 lb/gallon
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Surprising that it is about the same as water. Figured it should have been higher.cranetruck said:
Course I guess I could have figured it out mathamatically off the first post!!
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Why is anyone using it? At those prices, why bother? ust to stop using oil? This all started in order to save dollars, no? Save the earth? Is that the point of paying more for Bio than diesel? I am con fused. I thought a person could pick this stuff up for free?
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Re: RE: Veggie oil way up in price....
Educate me/us --
I got thinking about this. Basically to extract or turn corn into alcohol don't you have to have what essentially would be one big bad a** still ?? Does'nt it take a fire under the still to do the job of making the alcohol ?? But then I got thinking, don't beer/whiskey brewers put corn mash into huge vats and let it do it's thing also ?? Either way, would'nt it be impractical to make ethanol because of the expense of using fuel to make it or to let it sit in a huge number of vats ??ARMYMAN30YearsPlus said:
Educate me/us --