What all do I need to install a cruise control kit on a CUCV?

[TexAndy]

I was thinking of installing this kit
http://www.amazon.com/Rostra-Univer...id=1425426720&sr=8-1&keywords=rostra+250-1223

The rostra 250-1223 on my M1009

Judging from the details on that page, it looks like I also need a:

Vehicle Speed sensor kit

Control switch (either stalk or dash mount)

Is there anything else I would need in addition to the above for adding cruise to a CUCV?

It all looks pretty straight-forward. If I understand it properly, it's just a servo motor to control an additional throttle cable. Servo controlled by a micro-processor/driver combo which compares "set" speed to "seen" speed from a speed sensor input and turns the motor CW or CCW to try to match the two values.

Looks like I can get everything I need, assuming those three things are it, for under 300 bucks.

Would love to hear from some people who have done this or similar to a CUCV, tho, before I dive in at the deep end.

 

[WILDBOY6X6]

The best way is to find a civilian one with it and remove all the things , like at a salvage/wrecking yard. I could check here if you want since there are a lot of yards in my area.


Steve

 

[TexAndy]

That is an option I would consider. Shoot, I wonder if a cruise control from a same-era suburban or K30 could be used, for that matter.

 

[WILDBOY6X6]

Yes anything around that age 81 to 87 most but some others will work , any body type too p/u blazer, etc. better if has diesel eng but not big deal.

 

[Skinny]

I would agree with all of that, just be wary of installing 30 year old electronics. I think the gas version used a vacuum actuator and the diesel version was different with an electric actuator right in front of the IP facing down at an angle. If you go scrap yard, I would source one off a diesel since I believe the systems are completely different.

 

[TexAndy]

Everything has been done with an arduino. I'm ashamed for even doubting it.

There's all kinds of cruise controls people have built on little arduino project boards if you do a google search.

I probably wouldn't go that way as I'm more interested in the results than tinkering but I guess it's an option.

 

[Keith_J]

The vehicle speed sensor might be interesting to install given the age of the vehicle. But something can be made.

 

[TexAndy]

The vehicle speed sensor might be interesting to install given the age of the vehicle. But something can be made.

If the chevy-specific vehicle speed pulse generator is too difficult to fit, they do make a version that is just magnet and hall-effect sensor for generic use.

For Ford and all other vehicle makes, we offer part number 250-4165 - a sensor that attaches to the vehicle's body and a package of magnets that attach to the vehicle's driveshaft or CV shaft. When the shaft spins and the magnet(s) pass by the sensor, a speed signal is generated.

 

[blackhueys]

That's the system I installed in my m1009. I went with the stock appearing turn signal lever and yes you do need a vehicle speed sensor (VSS) The one I used attaches to the end of the speedometer cable inline down by the transfer case this is the part number from Rostra if i remember right, 250-4153. I was thinking of using a stock setup till I tried to pull one from the boneyard. way to much work to do, to get a system that could end up being nothing but junk in the end. its been 4 years since i installed this and no issues yet, took about a day for the install. holds the set speed dead on.

 

[TexAndy]

What did you do with your windshield wiper/sprayer controls? Or does the new lever just mount on the steering column alongside the stock one?

 

[llong66]

TexAndy, its been a few years ago, but I bought an aftermarket CC unit from JC Whitney, a universal unit, I used it on an 85 silvarado I had a gasser, but it worked great. I cant remember the company that made it, or the details of the install, but I do know it was not hard. Had a small, 2 button control that you could place anywhere you wanted and if I am remembering correctly the throttle end would be no problem to hook up to the IP. I think the whole setup was around $100, this was maybe 12-15 years ago.

Good luck!
Greg

 

[JJP]

TexAndy,
I have an Audiovox CCS100 unit installed in my 76 C20. It works well. Easy to install. They have discontinued it but a company contracted with Audiovox to make the same unit. If you search Murphskits CCS100 you can find it. It works off of a magnetic pickup on the drive shaft or you can add a pickup inline on the speed O cable. The pickup units were used on GM vehicle in the late 80's. My brother has his truck setup with one. I am not sure of the part number but I maybe able to get some information on it if you need it. I believe you can also add a turn signal style controller instead of the supplied one.

Good Luck.

Jim

 

[llong66]

JJP, you just jarred my memory!!! Thank you! The unit i mentioned above was the Audiovox, I used the DS magnets. I did not know it had been discontinued but its nice to know somethng similar is around as I was thinking of putting one on my M1008. Thanks again!!

 

[TexAndy]

Thanks guys, but I don't know if that audiovox/murphskits ccs-100 will work. From their website:

This is a universal cruise control for internal combustion engines. It is capable of receiving inputs from various sources for speed monitoring and uses engine vacuum to operate a servo that is attached to the vehicle throttle control.

Sounds from that like it uses a vacuum-powered motor rather than an electric one. I'm not sure how that works, either. I think I prefer the all-electric with micro-controller solution.

It does look like the CCS-100 would be overall about 100 bucks cheaper, tho.

 

[Keith_J]

You could tee into the vacuum pump line at the back of the engine to use vacuum operated cruise control. Unlike a gasoline engine, you shouldn't need a vacuum reservoir since vacuum volume flow rate is proportional to engine speed. In a gasoline engine, vacuum level is inversely proportional to engine load.

 

[blackhueys]

What did you do with your windshield wiper/sprayer controls? the replacement lever just pops in everything works the same just adds cruise switches

 

[TexAndy]

You could tee into the vacuum pump line at the back of the engine to use vacuum operated cruise control. Unlike a gasoline engine, you shouldn't need a vacuum reservoir since vacuum volume flow rate is proportional to engine speed. In a gasoline engine, vacuum level is inversely proportional to engine load.

Hm. Well I might just have to go with this one, then. The ccs100 kit is 180 dollars total and comes with both the control switch and the speed sensor kit.

 

[Streamline]

Sounds like a interesting project that I would like to do to my M1009! Keep us updated with pictures to when you start the install! I use my truck for traviling to Military and Gun Shows so cruise control would be great!

 

[Skinny]

I'm not sure why it is needed. With 160hp, just put a brick on the pedal and the CUCV should hold steady at about 65mph

 

[Keith_J]

I'm not sure why it is needed. With 160hp, just put a brick on the pedal and the CUCV should hold steady at about 65mph

One of the joes at BN level got a speeding ticket by VA state police for 80 in a 55 in an M1009. Andy has a 1009.