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Phase 2 complete... Don't know how many know but this is being built off grid (that means not connected to any utilities and aren't available), 50 miles from any city and by one person "me".View attachment 874538View attachment 874539
Weldman, that is a work of art (apart from the engineering) in its own right!!

Got a question, and figuring you thought it through, but the possible uplift wind-load on that thing has go to be considerable:

- You got that covered with closing off the ends somehow and all, right?
 

Weldman

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Weldman, that is a work of art (apart from the engineering) in its own right!!

Got a question, and figuring you thought it through, but the possible uplift wind-load on that thing has go to be considerable:

- You got that covered with closing off the ends somehow and all, right?
Without the side wings alone was a considerable amount of uplift on the main atrium, it has so far sustain up to 80 mph winds without the side wings to buffer the wind. Most prevalent winds come from the SW which that hits it at an angle and for most damaging winds come from west which it's not a flat wall so it just slides right over. The structure will be buried on the west, north and east side to about foot and half from the main roof edge for natural insulation and wind won't bother it.
All the poles go 4 plus feet down and were packed down with backhoe using a special pole I made that had footprint of 6 x 6 inches pushing 10k plus pounds. As if that weren't enough check out what the poles are mounted to, I didn't just dig a post hole drop a pole down and few bags of concrete on top then back filled it. I took a 26 inch salt lick tub filled it with concrete (three 80lb bags), shoved down two layers a galvanized mesh mid ways then I took a 6 x 6 " piece of channel iron I welded rebar hooks on all 4 corners and shoved that in till flush with surface. After dried I then welded the pole to the channel iron and put holes in side for drainage and shoved the whole assembly down in the trenches that went down 4.5 to 5 ft back filled with rock before putting poles down.Pole build 1.jpegPole build 2.jpegSalt lick tub.jpgAnchor.jpg
 

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and shoved the whole assembly down in the trenches that went down 4.5 to 5 ft back filled with rock before putting poles down.
Some day some knucklehead national Third-Class (among all us knucklehead nations with nukes) is going to accidentally push the wrong button, and after launching is going to say "oops":

- 100 years later when the smoke clears and all the dust settles around the planet

That shed of yours is going to be the ONLY thing standing above grade.
 

Weldman

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Some day some knucklehead national Third-Class (among all us knucklehead nations with nukes) is going to accidentally push the wrong button, and after launching is going to say "oops":

- 100 years later when the smoke clears and all the dust settles around the planet

That shed of yours is going to be the ONLY thing standing above grade.
And if you dig around a bit you will find a house buried in the ridge side somewhere too that is fully functioning with lights, water and maybe overgrown plants in the front and I will saunter out with long grey beard and cane in hand to welcome you :ROFLMAO:
 

Weldman

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Weldman, that project is looking real good. It's a work-of-art!

Guessing that the 2x's on the ground are formwork for a slab you plan to lay down over the gravel; is that the plan?
Yep, I was getting it together but decided it's way too warm to lay a 1376 square feet 5 inch slab out "myself". Going to have to wait a few weeks for it to drop to 70's for highs. Done unknown amount of favors and heard if you need any help give me a holler, well I'm hoarse from hollering at so many people and getting excuses, I even offered cash. I don't get it...
Forms, then radon/vapor barrier, which pipes are already buried in the rock, Hercules rebar chairs, 24 OC #4 rebar then the slab all on top of the 3/4" crushed rock.
 

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Yep, I was getting it together but decided it's way too warm to lay a 1376 square feet 5 inch slab out "myself".

Forms, then radon/vapor barrier, which pipes are already buried in the rock, Hercules rebar chairs, 24 OC #4 rebar then the slab all on top of the 3/4" crushed rock.
Placing concrete is bull labor for sure. Maybe offer some high school football team a "real world" experience and feed them lunch in exchange for their labor placing the mix and later on the slab. Hire one good concrete man to direct/watch them. Of course, this might just make trouble.

If nothing else a good chat with your supplier about the mix never hurts. Air-entrained is always a good idea (but newer stuff might be going on and I've been out of the business for a while). You likely even know more than me.
 

Weldman

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Placing concrete is bull labor for sure. Maybe offer some high school football team a "real world" experience and feed them lunch in exchange for their labor placing the mix and later on the slab. Hire one good concrete man to direct/watch them. Of course, this might just make trouble.

If nothing else a good chat with your supplier about the mix never hurts. Air-entrained is always a good idea (but newer stuff might be going on and I've been out of the business for a while). You likely even know more than me.
No football team or of the likes here for getting help, too far out from town as is. Doubt I know more than you if you have done this, I sure haven't this will be my first. Air-entrained is for concrete exposed to the elements last I recalled hearing. Nothing fancy here, just what I described earlier with 4000 psi concrete with fiber-mesh mixed in going to try to get 6 to 7 inch slump to run a vibra-screed I can rent in town with a power trowel.
 

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No football team or of the likes here for getting help, too far out from town as is. Doubt I know more than you if you have done this, I sure haven't this will be my first. Air-entrained is for concrete exposed to the elements last I recalled hearing. Nothing fancy here, just what I described earlier with 4000 psi concrete with fiber-mesh mixed in going to try to get 6 to 7 inch slump to run a vibra-screed I can rent in town with a power trowel.
You know what you're doing, Weldman; and I should have known as much!

Yeah, fiber-mesh was just becoming a thing about the time I wound down my years in the business (and it would seem to be a "no-brainer" for any flatwork). Sawcutting some control joints as a final step is likely on your checklist. Love to see the pics!!
 

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You know what you're doing, Weldman; and I should have known as much!

Yeah, fiber-mesh was just becoming a thing about the time I wound down my years in the business (and it would seem to be a "no-brainer" for any flatwork). Sawcutting some control joints as a final step is likely on your checklist. Love to see the pics!!
I will make grooves between the main and the side wings on each side for control joints so I don't have to saw cut anything. Been learning past 30 days on this as I absorb information like a sponge and understand how to apply it. While at it I will put some wraps of polyethylene foam about 1/8" thick around each pole so it doesn't crack there too as is expands and contracts. I think that it's not a no brainer, it's more of people don't know about fiber mesh as in the customers, but the contractor does and doesn't mention it as not many are building workshops, garages, etc.
 
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