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Thats a first gen truck. They took the top off the start relay and tried to manually engage it.
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Yes. I see you are catching on.
Hmm. Ok thx. Now I just need to figure out what the ones missing are.
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Some can be empty depending on accessories. Standard bosch style automotive relays 12 & 24 volt.
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I saw that same panel in my truck, I'm just wondering if someone with a first Gen 1078 can show me which ones actually need to be installed, then I can look and see if I need 12 or 24 or what combo I need.
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I would get a few of each to have on hand. You can use blade fuses in place of the breakers if need be. You have 12 volt relays switching 24 volt circuits and vice versa. Do you have single digit trans control display or double digit? Double is wtec 2 and single is 3.
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Wheelspinner, the required relays will have terminals showing in the sockets. Sockets with no terminals were not used on your truck.
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Leave the ones that have anything to do with a wrecker empty right from the start.
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Nice truck man, and welcome to the club. This club requires many hours spent reading the TM's over and over again, then grabbing a beer, reading the SS boards and staring at the TM's again until it make sense. All in all, the club is a lot of fun.
I'll have to make a trip up there to come check it out and look it over. Hit me up if you need some help.
I'll have to make a trip up there to come check it out and look it over. Hit me up if you need some help.
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It has been said that when they give up working on them and pass them on to be sold...... they tend to leave hints on what issues caused them to give up. That opened up relay may be one of those hints so keep in mind you may have start wiring issues since it was hinted earlier that disassembled relay is in that area of the electronics.
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Here is a picture of mine.
It looks like you are missing the 12 volt Hazard Flasher, Ignition, Stoplight and Marker Lamps relays. In 24 volts the Exitation or alternator and Starter relays.
It looks like you are missing the 12 volt Hazard Flasher, Ignition, Stoplight and Marker Lamps relays. In 24 volts the Exitation or alternator and Starter relays.
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Coming up on a year and that STILL hasn't happened.
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That's why I didn't put a time frame on it. Sounds like you haven't starred long enough!
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Some people just don't learn efficiently by reading a manual like that, their brain is not wired that way. I'm one; which lead me study to how the brain learns in my past academic quest. For example some folk will learn ton more by exploring other people's (and their own) Snafu's and breakdowns discussed in here. In here even though the responses are reading, they are also a forray into analysis and synthesis of the situation. This brain exercise of analysis and synthesis is where some folks brain really ticks and learns AND RECORDS.
With that in mind... Mucho thanks to those that report up their snafu's and breakdowns.... and to those who discuss them. Your a huge help. Guess you could say..... one man's breakdown is another man's treasure
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With that in mind... Mucho thanks to those that report up their snafu's and breakdowns.... and to those who discuss them. Your a huge help. Guess you could say..... one man's breakdown is another man's treasure
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Wtec3 has a small display window 1/2 inch by 3/4.
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So guessing a 2 then. Is that important in the troubleshooting phase?
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Yes the neutral start protection is different and the wtec 2 is a bit more forgiving than the 3. You have the wtec2 the trans computer is behind the keypad and there is a vim module behind the passenger kick panel with trans related relays.
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fixed it
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Charged up the two low batteries. Added 6 missing relays in. Hit the button and fired right up. I don't even think it turned a full revolution. Everything seems to be working well, except when I release the parking brake, it's blowing air out of the emergency front glad hand and the service side front glad hand when I put the service brakes on. I'll have to dig into the air schematics to figure that one out. Other than that, so far so good.
