Tires, can it really be this hard??

[cranetruck]

What do you use to sipe them?

A couple of images. It took me about 15 minutes/tire, no big deal really.

 

[kblazer87]

How do the 395's fit on Vped above?

The 395s are 46" and the 14.00s are 49". I believe the center to center on the rear axles is only 47".

 

[gimpyrobb]

Didn't see the answer before I posted the same thing.

 

[m16ty]

From seeing both M939 and M939a1,a2 trucks in the log woods, there is no comparison between singles vs duals when off-road. Singled out trucks will go places you can't even attempt with a dual truck.

 

[rustystud]

A couple of images. It took me about 15 minutes/tire, no big deal really.

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That's a nice looking siping tool you got there. Where did you get it and do you remember how much it was ?

 

[cranetruck]

That's a nice looking siping tool you got there. Where did you get it and do you remember how much it was ?

Got it on ebay for about $75, sold it a few years later, also on ebay and got about half my money back.

 

[Droppedadeuce]

By far the best mod I did was 395's on MRAP wheels... The stock ndcc's did ok in mud on the rear, the front would always sink... The 395's float a little better in the front now. On sand, dirt/snow/asphalt there is absolutely no comparison. I used to get stuck plowing with the ndcc's in 6x6..... last year I never went into 6x6 at all for snow. I use my deuce for work, carrying my scrap metal to the scrap yard every week (I own a welding shop), and I load it up, usually ~12,000 lbs per week sometimes more sometimes less. The tires do not care, even at 40 psi they run cool, show now signs of being overloaded. Steering is the same basically; I do have air assist as it came with the truck so I cant say without.

 

[VPed]

The load rating of the 395 Michelin XZL's on my deuce are rated at 12,330 lbs. each. The 1400 x 20s on my 5 ton are "only" 9,960 lbs.

 

[David IPFD]

After checking for myself i found that our truck is a M35A3 not an A2 like i was told. Sorry for the confusion thats what i get for not checking.

 

[sac]

A couple of images. It took me about 15 minutes/tire, no big deal really.

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thank you I might have to look for one.

 

[David IPFD]

Rustystud’s comment is something i have not considered i believe the water tank is a 650 gallon so water weight is about 5200 not including the original bed pump, hose reel, plumbing and firefighters. My main concern was for space using a larger tire like the 365s or 395s in the 85R and the chance of damage from mesquite trees being caught in a smaller area.

 

[gimpyrobb]

It doesn't matter singles or duals. Singles are better off road and have a higher weight rating. Some feel as duals means you have a spare built in, that only works at low speed. Crusher had a flat on one of his duals during a recovery, he said there was no way he could continue on without removing the flat. Slow speed, maybe, but not driving "at speed".

Ultimately, its your choice, but it sounds like you have singles on it already. I'd stick with the singles and maybe go up a size. Just my thoughts on the matter.

 

[tobyS]

So you can go to 395's and from what i understand, they will mount on the A3 rim. Check specifically with G on the issue of metric and industrial, but if you have an A3, you already have 365's, singled.

If by some chance you would want to duel up the rear, then 11.00 is the same revs/mile as the 365. You would keep the 365 on the front and replace the A3 rims with budds on the rear and the G177 tire (use radial tube)...nice!!!

PM me if that is the way you would go, I'd be interested in the take off wheels and have some 6 lug budds...trade

 

[Csm Davis]

Check specifically with G on the issue of metric and industrial, but if you have an A3, you already have 365's, singled.

If by some chance you would want to duel up the rear, then 11.00 is the same revs/mile as the 365. You would keep the 365 on the front and replace the A3 rims with budds on the rear and the G177 tire (use radial tube)...nice!!!

This is the best overall in my opinion. 14.5 or 365 on front for better floatation and G177 dually in rear.

 

[gimpyrobb]

You have to be careful with 365s!

If its a 365/85r20, its not the same, its too big. If its the 365/80r20 its the same(as a 14.50).

 

[rustystud]

This truck is not an A3. It's a A2, he just has access to larger tires from the gov. surplus. I still say stay with the 9.00-20 or 11.00-20 at most. When they start breaking axles because of the extra strain who's house or property is going to burn down because they couldn't get there ? Unless they want to upgrade to "oversons" 2" axles and high strength gears leave the tires stock.

 

[gringeltaube]

This truck is not an A3. It's a A2....

So what about post #29???



Besides that, A2 and A3's share exactly the same axles...
And there is a (good)reason the military adopted these MPT tires to put on the M35A3...






G.

 

[rustystud]

So what about post #29???



Besides that, A2 and A3's share exactly the same axles...
And there is a (good)reason the military adopted these MPT tires to put on the M35A3...






G.

I guess thats what I get for not checking ! I was refering to the wheels myself in my post. Still the military never used 395's on a deuce did they Gerhard ? But let him use what he wants after all it's only lives where talking about here and the cool factor far outways anything else.

 

[gimpyrobb]

Its not the cool factor, its (more)speed, load capacity, and off road performance. IMHO

 

[tobyS]

Its not the cool factor, its (more)speed, load capacity, and off road performance. IMHO

The 365/80r20 has a weight rating around 7,800 per tire. The G177 has a weight rating around 6,800. So with (4) 365's the total is 31,200 and with ( G177's the total is 54,400.