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I have been saying that for several years here on the site, but I have only said it for Ohio. It's in the exemption section of the law here in the Buckeye state.I was taught in CDL classes that a CDL isn't needed for any commercial vehicle used for non commercial use.
Isn't going to help out with liabilities, if your not a farmer...Has anyone checked into any exceptions to any of these requirements - namely for Farmers? In NY there are CDL and taxation exemptions ... Just a thought (if it helps in your particular situation)
NV honors "reciprocity" with respect to DMV regs for each state. As long as you are legal in your state (i.e., non-commercial MV covered by DL regardless of weight), then you are OK in NV....if you are not required to have any special endorsements for your MV with a GVWR over 26,001-lbs in your state, then you are good to go in & through NV.I thought the feds took over the CDL requirements and just make the states enforce them. I live in Ohio and took my CDL training in WV and my test in Ohio. So what would NV say about a non resident passing through in an M931 with a 48' trailer and just a plain ol' noncommercial lisense? I was taught in CDL classes that a CDL isn't needed for any commercial vehicle used for non commercial use. I was talking to a guy that had a Pete semi-tractor with a noncommercial plate pulling a camper trailer working in the oilfields. (Can't remember what state he was from.) I usually support state's rights but the feds should control this better to eliminate the drama.
There is an air brake endorsement; it is incorporated with the Class A or B licensing, regardless if commercial or non-commercial.Correct me if iam wrong but there is no air break endorsement for non commercial a and. B licence in nevada its included when you get the licence, J is the only endorsement for non commerical mostly for c licence people with big trailers.. judging from the Nevada DMV handbook you just posted. I know the regular commercial license has an air brake endorsement on license it's self
No apology necessary; you're a good man Tom, and I hope you are able to enjoy your truck for many years of trouble-free miles.Howdy,
First of all I want to apologize to silverstate55 for my surly tone in my reply to his initial message. I was in fact also wrong in my statement and silverstate55 was correct in his!
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Thanks again silverstate55 for keeping me from making a very bad mistake!
Tom
Warren,NV honors "reciprocity" with respect to DMV regs for each state. As long as you are legal in your state (i.e., non-commercial MV covered by DL regardless of weight), then you are OK in NV....if you are not required to have any special endorsements for your MV with a GVWR over 26,001-lbs in your state, then you are good to go in & through NV.
While I try to shy away from the aforementioned "rumor mill" and ultimately have no way to provide any truth to the following info, a friend of mine has had occasion to use his military vehicles to move equipment for a museum and was told by his lawyer, the museum, perhaps their lawyers, etc that he could be reimbursed for fuel, food, lodging, vehicle maintenance, etc and remain non-commercial because there is indeed a difference between reimbursement of costs incurred and straight up for-profit operation. I have come across other things that would lead me to believe that this might also be the case. The FMCSA's website has a nice "guidance question" area and has the following about the § 390.3(f)(3) FMCSR exception. -...The key with non-commercial is that NO currency changes hands as a result of the drive; so if you are receiving reimbursement for fuel while hauling non-commercial, you are now considered to be a commercial carrier.
One of the very first line of questionings I received during my application for Class A N/C was what I intended to use the license for; I explained my collection of antique Caterpillars as well as attending various classic truck & tractor shows around western states. I was then asked if there would be any prizes or purses during these shows, as this would constitute a commercial endeavor. Luckily I know my work, and this is never a possibility for my vehicles, so I successfully flew through this line of inquiry. There cannot be ANY possibility of you receiving any funds for your driving with a Non-Commercial driver's license in Nevada (I'm sure most other states are similar). You cannot receive reimbursements for fuel, miles, time, labor, etc... Your hauls can ONLY be done for personal purposes. You CAN transport your items/vehicles/equipment to/from events as long as you are not being paid for it; you can attend swap meets and buy/sell your stuff as long as you are not a vendor, personal use ONLY. You can transport other people's vehicles and equipment as a favor, as long as you are not being reimbursed in any way for this service....I have done so and when questioned I simply reply that I will be the operator and/or crew member on the equipment, and we are doing so as a hobby and for pure personal enjoyment.
I hope this makes sense; many Motor Carrier Enforcement LEOs have creative ways of inquiry to try to get you to admit that you are operating as a commercial carrier.
On Nevada's CDL, is there an air brake endorsement? Or is it a restriction? In Arizona, there is no air brake endorsment, only an air brake restriction. It might seem like minutiae, but I think there is an important difference in most cases.There is an air brake endorsement; it is incorporated with the Class A or B licensing, regardless if commercial or non-commercial.
Because of the long history of farming & ranching in NV, the Non-Commercial designation is primarily used for these folks to move their equipment from location to location legally.
The "J" endorsement is becoming an issue, as more and more pickups have towing abilities up to 30K-lbs (1-ton duallies in particular). So if you are a NV resident and tow a trailer over 10K-lbs GVWR (as listed on its data plate, whether civvy or MV), get the "J" endorsement. It's not hard, as long as you know how to back a trailer safely. Good peace of mind if you are involved in a collision/accident.
This is interesting information. I want to drive a 5-ton into the country (Nevada), work on my laptop and make money under a business (licensed in NV). Because I would be making money, the state wants a commercial drivers license. Does that sound right?NV honors "reciprocity" with respect to DMV regs for each state. As long as you are legal in your state (i.e., non-commercial MV covered by DL regardless of weight), then you are OK in NV....if you are not required to have any special endorsements for your MV with a GVWR over 26,001-lbs in your state, then you are good to go in & through NV.
ETA: Non-Commercial Class A/B holders aren't required to maintain logbooks, aren't subject to hours of service requirements, and generally don't attract the attention of LEOs except in rare cases...I know at least one member here who is non-commercial but was put through the ringer by an over-reaching LEO several states away from me. The key with non-commercial is that NO currency changes hands as a result of the drive; so if you are receiving reimbursement for fuel while hauling non-commercial, you are now considered to be a commercial carrier.
One of the very first line of questionings I received during my application for Class A N/C was what I intended to use the license for; I explained my collection of antique Caterpillars as well as attending various classic truck & tractor shows around western states. I was then asked if there would be any prizes or purses during these shows, as this would constitute a commercial endeavor. Luckily I know my work, and this is never a possibility for my vehicles, so I successfully flew through this line of inquiry. There cannot be ANY possibility of you receiving any funds for your driving with a Non-Commercial driver's license in Nevada (I'm sure most other states are similar). You cannot receive reimbursements for fuel, miles, time, labor, etc... Your hauls can ONLY be done for personal purposes. You CAN transport your items/vehicles/equipment to/from events as long as you are not being paid for it; you can attend swap meets and buy/sell your stuff as long as you are not a vendor, personal use ONLY. You can transport other people's vehicles and equipment as a favor, as long as you are not being reimbursed in any way for this service....I have done so and when questioned I simply reply that I will be the operator and/or crew member on the equipment, and we are doing so as a hobby and for pure personal enjoyment.
I hope this makes sense; many Motor Carrier Enforcement LEOs have creative ways of inquiry to try to get you to admit that you are operating as a commercial carrier.
If the truck is associated with or an integral part of your doing business, then YES....GVWR over 26K-lbs used for business, requires CDL.This is interesting information. I want to drive a 5-ton into the country (Nevada), work on my laptop and make money under a business (licensed in NV). Because I would be making money, the state wants a commercial drivers license. Does that sound right?
Howdy,Hey everyone sorry to bring up an older post but can't find a definite answer. I'm looking at an m813a1 and thought I was good to go but someone just told me I can't drive it with my class C ?!?!? It looks like registering it won't be a problem but now is my class c a problem? Should I walk away and find a deuce?
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