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2011 - PNW Mini Rally 5 - Bridging Truck Recovery

Mini Rally #5 in the PNW - Arlington Heights WA

  • Yes I would love to help out on April 30th

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hwcurtice

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WA isn't so forgiving on it.
But the learners permit is an easy way around most of the issues you will have.
True, but I found out that it's easier to get a Class B if you have vision issues, like I do. Only 20/20 correctible in my right eye.

I can't get a Class A for nothing because of it. I just can't do trailers.

I looked. I was thinking of a way to make some extra $$$ by driving a dump truck by getting my CDL Class B. Still a few too many hoops, but I suppose it would be nice to have. I've driven bigger uHauls and Penske trucks, but not fully loaded like a 5 ton dump...
 

Hammer

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I drive the big semi wreckers. So I get to haul just about everything behind it.
The A is nice because you are no longer limited to what you can drive. But with your vision issues, you have a valid point with going for the B.
 

Hammer

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Also, doesn't that truck have the air fittings on the front fenders so it can be flat towed with full brakes?
You have a fairly heavy truck to tow it with, just grab a towbar and you are ready to bring it back.
 

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Flat tow isn't a bad idea. The 16.00x20 loose a lot when going up steep hills, with a towed load of 26,000 it would be that much worse.

I guess I could swap out my 11.00x20 street tread tires. I will have to talk to Adam about it. So CDL A would be ok for 23K M813A1 pulling 26K M283 if the air over hydraulic was hooked up, working and in good condition 7 I had the proper wide load markings?

I didn't like using a deuce to pull a deuce, but that flat tow did not have the slave air brake hookup.

I did get a new $150 w/gaskets intake from White Owl in NC and 6 - 2" wheel cylinders ordered. George from White Owl said he never has any problems with the 6602's (coolant in the rear cylinder) other than doing some of the Zenith carb swaps. Kevin says this M328 has a Holley.
 
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Hammer

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CDL A, Combination, Air Brake. That will cover what you are pulling. Then just over size permit and signage.
I have flat towed a deuce with a deuce. Not the best, but I have done it quite a bit really. That that is without the 5 ton brakes. I think it would be ok with the safety of the braking.
The smaller street tires would make the trip a LOT easier. Slower coming over, but easier on the way back, especially over the passes.
 

quarkz

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I was on board with this idea 100%. But then I realized that my 813 has historic plates and collector insurance. So I am not covered unless I get re-registered and real insurance.
 

hwcurtice

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I was on board with this idea 100%. But then I realized that my 813 has historic plates and collector insurance. So I am not covered unless I get re-registered and real insurance.

mmm Monkey Wrench? Meet gears... :-/

So what's the next option? Drive it over and have a couple chase vehicles to cover for breakdowns?
 

Hammer

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And you can usually get short term insurance. Some commercial type insurance would be available on a weekly basis, but most will offer a monthly basis type setup. I have done that before.
 

quarkz

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Hammer/Ed,
That is some very useful information. I would have never considered short term insurance. Your a good guy. Likes to cut the corners like I do. A thinker. So any suggestions on what companies do the short term insurance?

Also I am still considering having the truck shipped. Are you familiar with what the going rate is in this higher fuel priced economy? Is paying round trip or one way miles most common?

Thanx Scott.

Adam,
The pickin's are still looking quite a bit thin.
According to the poll it is just you, me, Scott, and Josh. Then there is Kevin the PO and one or two of my friends.
 

Hammer

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Last time I did the short term, I got a months insurance from State Farm. They will not cover it themselves, but have a commercial underwriter do it for them. The big guys can usually do this the easiest.
Remember to tell them very low mileage per month/year, as that really drops the cost of it (or, it did for me anyways.... )

As for shipping, best bet, call around to some local places that haul out, and see if any have some open space on back hauls. THAT is how you save a LOT of money on shipping.
As for going rates, I only know what I charge as a tow truck. And that would be an outrageous quote for the mileage you are talking about!
 

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Last time I did the short term, I got a months insurance from State Farm. They will not cover it themselves, but have a commercial underwriter do it for them. The big guys can usually do this the easiest.
Remember to tell them very low mileage per month/year, as that really drops the cost of it (or, it did for me anyways.... )

As for shipping, best bet, call around to some local places that haul out, and see if any have some open space on back hauls. THAT is how you save a LOT of money on shipping.
As for going rates, I only know what I charge as a tow truck. And that would be an outrageous quote for the mileage you are talking about!

Great points Ed! I hadn't thought of the short term insurance option.

Tony,

To expand a little using a commercial carrier to ship the truck------------

Be sure to tell them up front it'll be oversize. There's usually an additional fee for permits and such. You may luck out and find one that'll take it to pay for fuel to get home or closer to the next load.

The bridge truck will require a step deck trailer (usaully a 48 footer, with a 37 ft bottom deck and an 11 ft top deck) as it's too tall for a standard flatbed unless the stack's removed, and the windshield's folded down . (Big pain in the posterior) The better option would be a lowboy type of trailer the truck can be driven onto on site as opposed to a step deck that requires a ramp. The down side to this is it'd cost more as it's more specialised equipment.

As for insurance, I've never done short term. The 5 ton's insured thru Gulfway in Florida, an agent/broker for Travelers as a collector/historic vehicle. They don't require vehicles to be parked indoors or a secure area like Hagerty and others. My rate is about $238.00 p/yr for full coverage, and PIP. They require photos from all four sides, interior shots, a bunch of questions about usage, other drivers in the household and a mileage report in a yearly update. The Blazer's insured thru another company as a regular vehicle.

Hope my nickels worth helped a bit.
 

quarkz

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Well I thought I had a uship transporter lined up for a fair price on Friday. So Kevin/Oso was nice enough to make the pickup happen, but in the mean time we canceled the mini rally and Kevin scheduled some other obligations into the slots. Then this morning the transporter told me that he could not haul wide loads. So the both the shipping and the mini rally are postponed.

So I will look a little more for a transporting Company. And if I can arrange some time with Kevin to tinker on the truck. But that won't happen till late May.

:cry:

So if anyone herein the PNW that has a lkowboy and wants to haul hay over to the wet side, I have the return load (oversized) that I would like to get over here.
 

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UPDATE: my hay is comming this weekend on high flats. I already talked to my hay hauler on this option about a weekand half ago, He didnt have acess to a lowboy trailer. When I lived in WIsconsin I had acess to all of that kind of stuff . Transtar /318 detroit and 50 ton lowboy trailer/ outriggers and 21' clear span on deck . 2cents
 
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