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The TM's I downloaded here did not have that Change 1 and 2 through 20 August 2005. I will try to search online for one. Did you get the TM-20 booklet too?TMs are a vast mystery to all but a few.
The A0 (June 1998 ) TM's were simply amended to add info for the A1 modifications (2005). The updated versions are difficult to find because they technically have the same numbers as the predecessors. I've never made heads nor tails of it, myself (fortunately one of my trucks came with a print copy of the later version).
The A1R TM's are still locked away in a wooden Raiders of the Lost Ark crate because "classified". Little black helicopters have long since whisked away anyone who had them off-base.
This is what the latest A0/A1 public release looks like. Is it posted here or elsewhere? No telling w/o a specific link...
*note that the cover page is the same as others but mentions the August 2005 amendments (I don't recall finding that amendment on any of the uploads here but it may or may not exist here on SS)
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Sorta. Like I said there's about 25+ serial number ranges in the actual electronic TM's that narrow down the attributes of that specific truck.So what was the question regarding the small box behind the battery box for? Does that distinguish which version of A1 I have?
No, I just got the one book.The TM's I downloaded here did not have that Change 1 and 2 through 20 August 2005. I will try to search online for one. Did you get the TM-20 booklet too?
The field service and parts manual would be a -24PThe TM's I downloaded here did not have that Change 1 and 2 through 20 August 2005. I will try to search online for one. Did you get the TM-20 booklet too?
Heh, S&S/BAE made all sorts of Franken-trucks (mostly all A1s). I've seen A1's with C7s that were clearly not A1R trucks. I suspect at some point they just said "use the parts we have available and make a truck).Sorta. Like I said there's about 25+ serial number ranges in the actual electronic TM's that narrow down the attributes of that specific truck.
Having the battery disconnect box means it's a later A1. As far as I know the A1R's started around mid-late 2007 and went till the end of BAE production.... 2009-ish. After that the contract for FMTV's went to Oshkosh and from there I am reasonably certain that only A1P2 armored cab models were being produced. Which can never be sold to the public.
Yep that's probably exactly what happened.Heh, S&S/BAE made all sorts of Franken-trucks (mostly all A1s). I've seen A1's with C7s that were clearly not A1R trucks. I suspect at some point they just said "use the parts we have available and make a truck).
That is probably the largest differentiator between early and later version A1. It means you have the LBCD and battery disconnect relays and controls.So what was the question regarding the small box behind the battery box for? Does that distinguish which version of A1 I have?
Any word on when they might declassify A1-A1R TM's?No, I just got the one book.
I have electronic copy of the A0 versions (TM-10 and -20, etc)) as well (it includes the changes thru 2005 even though the cover page does not indicate so).
Of course, I have an A1R so everything I have leaves me in the dark.
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Oh, I guess declassified isn't happening anytime soon for A1(R)'s.Yep that's probably exactly what happened.
The whole "A1R" thing is really a civilian-side label that's only found on some of the S&S/BAE schematics - it was an internal designation to differentiate trucks built to be field upgraded to an armored cab..... To the Army they are all just A1's and if you go to the Motor Sargent and start talking about A1R he will stare blankly at you and not have a clue what you mean. Since they were designed to be field upgraded to the A1P2 specification though what you find in practice is that if you want schematics applicable to the "A1R" you often have to look in the A1P2 manuals to find them. And there's probably no hope of those ever being declassified. .......
Oh wow. Thanks for that knowledge. What is LBCD? Wait, I didn't buy a queer truck did I ?!!! LOLThat is probably the largest differentiator between early and later version A1. It means you have the LBCD and battery disconnect relays and controls.