Availability of multifuel engine starter

[JasonS]

Most truck/ industrial engines use an SAE bolt pattern for the starter. Its when you get down to the car/ pickups where everyone has to be different.

 

[cranetruck]

Appreciate the hints to identify the 12-volt starter, it appears to be a DELCO 37-MT (1046105.....
I have no use for it, so if interested, make an offer. Weight is 51 lb.

 

[WillWagner]

The ones for the deuce...or 99% of the rest of HD engines are 42MT. The bolt pattern is the same, the are indexed by the capscrews in the mounting flange. The bendix should have 11 teeth.

 

[poppop]

That bolt pattern is quite common. I have a 12 volt laying under my shed that came of a V-8 Detroit in A Chevy C-65 that looks just like that.

 

[kipman]

Good to my handle in print, Cranetruck, I will get the price for shipping ASAP, could take until the weekend.

 

[sermis]

If you strik out on the starter let me know.

 

[gringeltaube]

The bendix should have 11 teeth.

So what should I do, cut one off? (all my starters have 12 teeth...)

Seriously, could there be different versions for the same application? As far as I know all MF engines have a 138T ring gear.

G.

 

[sermis]

Starter I posted has 12 teeth.

 

[WillWagner]

The bendix should have 11 teeth.

So what should I do, cut one off? (all my starters have 12 teeth...) G.

Maybe I need to count again?

 

[cranetruck]

This is from the TM.

 

[cranetruck]

Removed the starter from the engine this afternoon...here are the images.
The pinion is very worn and has 12 teeth.
MS53011-1 has 11 teeth
MS53011-2 has 12 teeth
MS53011-4 has 13 teeth

 

[FormerNewMVGuy]

I recently bought a nice take off in 20MM ammo can for $100 bucks. Just couldnt pass it up. Have it as a spare.

 

[cranetruck]

Make sure the can is vented so that water doesn't accumulate from humid air getting past the "seals".

 

[FormerNewMVGuy]

Thanks for the advice
I'll definitly check on that!

 

[gringeltaube]

MS53011-1 has 11 teeth
MS53011-2 has 12 teeth
MS53011-4 has 13 teeth

Interesting info Bjorn! So there are different models indeed!?
Will, you might be right...!
Q. is where goes which one or when did they use other than a 12T bendix?

I have two Tooele rebuilt MF engines still in the crate. One is a LDS 427-2 with a #53011-1 starter but having the 12T bendix (100% confirmed!) and the other one is a LDS465-1A with a #53011-2, also 12T.
Two more LDT465s to be checked tomorrow. And your LDS465-2 also has the 011-2!

Confusing... and if there is any rule applying to this all, there sure are exceptions too!

G.

 

[cranetruck]

This is from the spec sheet:


PINION DATA.: MS 53011-1 AND -3; 11 TEETH: 6/8 PITCH (12 TOOTH BLANK); 2.000 PD; 2.250 OD: 20° PRESSURE ANGLE; .015 TO .02S PL CLEARANCE.
MS 53011-2; 12 TEETH (13 TOOTH BLANK]; 8/10 PITCH; 1.625 PD; 1.825 OD:
20° PRESSURE ANGLE: .015 TO .025 PL CLEARANCE.
MS 53011-4; 13 TEETH; 8/10 PITCH (14 TOOTH BLANK); 1.750 PD: 1.950 OD; 20 DEGREE
PRESSURE ANGLE; .015 TO .025 PL CLEARANCE.

 

[cranetruck]

Received the starter from kipman and it is the same brand, year and model as was used on my 8x8.
Looking very good, very much appreciated! A money order for the shipping charges will be in the mail later today.

Even the rotation of the drive head is the same, 75°.

The towbar is not in the way, so take your time making arrangements for it.

Thanks again!

 

[cranetruck]

Finished installing the starter a moment ago. Works great, engine started in 3 seconds....
It's good to be in the company of the Steelsoldiers.

 

[stevegr]

Sorry to bring up a 3 yr old post but I think I have some info that might be helpfull. Leece-Neville starter on my 1971 M35A2 with LDT-465-1D needed replaced. Local starter shops would not rebuild it because they do not rebuild Leece-Neville. They wanted to sell me a reman Delco for $250 with 6 month warranty. They would not take the Leece for the core charge because they do not rebuild Leece. Called Delco-Remy tech, gave them the specs off my Leece starter and found a brand new new model Delco that will fit. It is aluminum, weighs about 33 lbs and has an indexable mounting flange with no nose cone. I called around and the best price I found was $328 out the door from Glen at http://www.diesel-plus.com/home.cfm I bought it, had to rotate the mounting flange to clear some items, installed it and it has worked great so far.

Model 39MT (there are several part #'s but only one that will replace the multifuel 12 tooth that I have)
Delco Remy Part #: 8200435 drawing is attached
Warranty: 3 years