G749 preservation

m1010plowboy · Jun 5, 2023

I managed to grab a few pics at the end of the 2023 Stony Plain parade loading Veterans for a trip back to the Legion. https://stonyplainlegion.com/

This is one of the finest examples of a preserved Deuce out there. Here's an old 0-50mph run from inside.

We finally have most of the engines out of the old crates and have a half dozen engine stands available. They measure about about 19x16x37 once unbolted from the base.

m1010plowboy · Jun 13, 2023

The days will start getting shorter soon so it's a good time to talk about heaters. Many of the CDN deuces had under dash heaters that are hard to find so we're always on the look out for this style.

More recently a fantastic fella named Cliff was cleaning out his yard and passed along a different style of heater that mounts under the hood.

They come with hood intake, hose to the firewall, diffuse er, defrost flap for the windows and we're looking for the interior hoses. We're also digging around for the Arctic kit Winterization TM so we can be sure we have all the parts. Finding those one-off, after market CDN manuals is an adventure.

It always brings a smile visiting my buddies yard and the stockpile. We still have take-out 302 crates that haven't been opened.

Someone was wondering if we saved any Mutts the M151. I grabbed a picture so the answer is yes.......and no.

USMC 00-08 · Jun 14, 2023

I have TB 9-2855-40 - Instructions For The Installation Of Personnel Heater Kit (Hot Water) (24V)

It has parts list, pictures, etc. Do I need to try to figure out how to scan and upload a copy?

m1010plowboy · Jun 14, 2023

I ran that number and found it all. Thank you. https://archive.org/stream/Technica...otWaterHeaterKit/TB_9-2855-43_heater_djvu.txt

The pdf is right here ......... http://www.jatonkam35s.com/jatonkaM135-211sTMdownloadpage.htm

and here ....... https://www.steelsoldiers.com/threa...water-personal-heater-kit-m37-m43-m42.145690/

Another Ahab · Jun 14, 2023

m1010plowboy said:
It always brings a smile visiting my buddies yard and the stockpile. We still have take-out 302 crates that haven't been opened.

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Hot dog, Plowboy, that's going to be like Christmas!

Can't wait!!

m1010plowboy · Jul 1, 2023

We went heater nuts today. These heaters are a little different than the ones in the TM's above. The outlet is smaller and it's not like the picture. Maybe we can pull up the CDN TM version off the box numbers. The pics,

m1010plowboy · Jul 1, 2023

It's interesting that they put two different kinds of drain taps in them. Consistently inconsistent.

Some random parts hunting pics,

I did find some 'spare' G749 Gerry Can holders still in the boxes if somebody is doing a resto resto resto project.

m1010plowboy · Jul 1, 2023

The G749 Preservation continues.

If someone is building a winch I still have 6 mid-shaft guards for the PTO but parts for winches are hard to find.

cmpman · Jul 1, 2023

m1010plowboy said:
We went heater nuts today. These heaters are a little different than the ones in the TM's above. The outlet is smaller and it's not like the picture. Maybe we can pull up the CDN TM version off the box numbers. The pics,

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Looks like 5 ton heater kits to me. Very similar to the mlvw kits. The rubber connectors on the wiring would indicate at least the latter half of the 60s.

Edited to add: I stand corrected. That stock code is listed in the Canadian Deuce parts manual.

Another Ahab · Jul 1, 2023

m1010plowboy said:
We went heater nuts today. These heaters are a little different than the ones in the TM's above. The outlet is smaller and it's not like the picture. Maybe we can pull up the CDN TM version off the box numbers. The pics,

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The parts look in great shape; wondering about the rubber in the hoses:

- are they still sound, or were they "crumbling"?

SturmTyger380 · Jul 1, 2023

I have a M211 heater kit but it’s missing the angled scoop thing that bolts onto the hood.

Can you take measurements of one so I can create one?

m1010plowboy · Jul 3, 2023

cmpman said:
Looks like 5 ton heater kits to me. Very similar to the mlvw kits. The rubber connectors on the wiring would indicate at least the latter half of the 60s.

cmpMAN we miss you around here. I ran that number on the boxes and came up dry but they did say 2 1/2 ton on the box. I was with a Mattech at that moment and didn't want to say anything about the military labeling things wrong. I think I found a third style maybe you've seen this type. What is the screen portion under the hood of this M211?? These trucks were hiding in Redwater with 1st Service btln stenciled on them and I would have really liked to save one.

m1010plowboy · Jul 3, 2023

SturmTyger380 said:
I have a M211 heater kit but it’s missing the angled scoop thing that bolts onto the hood.

Can you take measurements of one so I can create one?

I need to unpack some more so I'll grab a tape measure. They'd likely cost more to ship than the steel price so let's bend some metal.

m1010plowboy · Jul 3, 2023

Another Ahab said:
The parts look in great shape; wondering about the rubber in the hoses:

- are they still sound, or were they "crumbling"?

That's the first thing I did was grab a hose and flex it when I heard......careful. They actually seem ok. Imagine sticking your hose in a box 50 or 60 years ago and pulling it out only to find it's not rotten. Good times.

cmpman · Jul 3, 2023

m1010plowboy said:
cmpMAN we miss you around here. I ran that number on the boxes and came up dry but they did say 2 1/2 ton on the box. I was with a Mattech at that moment and didn't want to say anything about the military labeling things wrong. I think I found a third style maybe you've seen this type. What is the screen portion under the hood of this M211?? These trucks were hiding in Redwater with 1st Service btln stenciled on them and I would have really liked to save one.

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The screen you are talking about is the protective cage of a Stewart Warner "Southwind" 978M gas heater. They were a great heater (when they worked) and you could set them high enough to cook pizza if you wanted. They will bolt in similar locations as the hot water heater. But the hot water heaters had a much higher reliability with very little maintenance issues. You could also crack the windshields if you directed the heat from the 978 if the glass was still arctic cold.

These are the heaters you will find mounted up on the van bodies of the deuce, or in the back of the M37 panel vans. There were adapter kits to put them into just about any military vehicle of any voltage from 6 to 24 volts. We were still having 6 volt ones show up when we would order a 24 volt heater back in the 80s.

Regarding your heater kits, I stand corrected. They are for the M135 family of deuce. I didn't notice the defroster deflectors or the extension on the intake fan. I just looked up that NATO number in my Canadian Deuce manual, and it is listed in there.

m1010plowboy · Jul 3, 2023

cmpman said:
Regarding your heater kits, I stand corrected. They are for the M135 family of deuce. I didn't notice the defroster deflectors or the extension on the intake fan. I just looked up that NATO number in my Canadian Deuce manual, and it is listed in there.

Oh man you found that NATO number, thank you. I can usually hunt that info down but the search terms, they are a changing, to quote Bob Dillon. I'm sure Mattech still has a few of those Southwind heaters around and the topic is interesting enough we will likely gather a heater collection for these newest wild fellas. https://valourpark.org/

Now I'm hungry for Pizza and sprouted this idea to cook for the folks in an MLVW when they visit the dome.

I hear that this is one of the coolest museums to visit in Canada and I still hope to see it one day. https://en.rcamuseum.com/

m1010plowboy · Jul 13, 2023

SturmTyger380 said:
I have a M211 heater kit but it’s missing the angled scoop thing that bolts onto the hood.

Can you take measurements of one so I can create one?

I did this last week but got distracted by a marine, sorry. What's the scoop? Here's the scoop.

It's basically 5 1/4" x 5 1/4" base with 3 3/4" height off the hood. This one is 3 pieces with the top/angled/sloped piece requiring a 7" long x 5 1/4" rectangle to allow for a 6 1/2" slope with a 1/2" rear flange. The side flange(s) are real close to 3/4". It could be bent up as one piece unless we're going true museum status.

The scoop came with a part number in a kit and here it is.

m1010plowboy · Sep 10, 2023

One of the boys knows some folks that needed to play some airsoft games with some other folks. The G749 farm is almost ideal for games and we had some visitors come stretch their legs. https://opvalour.com/

This promotional video shows some of the sites around the G749 farm and now you won't need to drive all the way up North to see it, but you should. More to come.

I grabbed some detailed pics of that golden 1952 M135 so dropping pics here makes sense.

m1010plowboy · Sep 10, 2023

Some toys and things.

m1010plowboy · Sep 10, 2023

Some stealth cam pics of supporters, vendors and MV visitors.

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