PETLAS Has anyone tried these tires?

[Mogman]

There are so many late date but have been mounted tires available I wonder if many of those had failed inspection after being mounted, not being surplussed because the shelf life ran out.

 

[Mogman]

The Petlas tires weigh 69LB, the only Goodyear weight I could find quickly is the MT/R at 83LB

 

[Dieselmeister]

Looking at the weight difference, makes me wonder if they are all nylon belted, and not steel belted. I could not find that info in the description, but I did come across this statement in their description " The intended purpose of Mud Terrain tire types is off-road use. They are not designed for regular highway driving. "

 

[Mogman]

I think if you dig most manufactures have that statement hoping to limit liability

Looking at the weight difference, makes me wonder if they are all nylon belted, and not steel belted. I could not find that info in the description, but I did come across this statement in their description " The intended purpose of Mud Terrain tire types is off-road use. They are not designed for regular highway driving. "

 

[Jbulach]

Looking at the weight difference, makes me wonder if they are all nylon belted, and not steel belted. I could not find that info in the description, but I did come across this statement in their description " The intended purpose of Mud Terrain tire types is off-road use. They are not designed for regular highway driving. "

Are they DOT stamped or have a speed rating?

 

[Mogman]

Yes, they are 133/N 87Mph and 4541lb

 

[Coug]

I sent in for a shipping quote so the actual price can be compared, although I would expect it to be less than the $90 difference in price.
Of course the Goodyears could be made in China or any other of a host of third world countries.

Not sure about our size, but the rest of the Enforcer family of tires is manufactured in U.S.A. of foreign and domestic components.
I'd imagine with it being a military contract that our sizes are also domestically produced.

 

[87cr250r]

If you have 17 inch rims Yokohama Geolandar MT are available in 37x12.5. Mine are under a M1008. I had to hand mount them because I didn't have a running truck at the time. They're not balanced and are still smooth at 65mph. I have load range D tires. They're made in Japan. I can tell they're noisy but I can't really hear them over the engine. I think it was $350 a tire with free shipping.

 

[Mogman]

If you have 17 inch rims Yokohama Geolandar MT are available in 37x12.5. Mine are under a M1008. I had to hand mount them because I didn't have a running truck at the time. They're not balanced and are still smooth at 65mph. I have load range D tires. They're made in Japan. I can tell they're noisy but I can't really hear them over the engine. I think it was $350 a tire with free shipping.

17 inch opens up a ton of options, personally I have not found a set of rims I like.

 

[87cr250r]

17 inch opens up a ton of options, personally I have not found a set of rims I like.

Can you get some donor steel rims and have them welded on your centers? For the M1008 I found a bunch of Dodge rims from 2000ish on Rock Auto. They were cheap.

 

[Mogman]

Can you get some donor steel rims and have them welded on your centers? For the M1008 I found a bunch of Dodge rims from 2000ish on Rock Auto. They were cheap.

I'm sure it can be done, I do not have that capability.

 

[montaillou]

Return the Hagia Sofia.

Some things you don't let go of.

 

[blutow]

Sorry, missed this. Last I checked they had them at MAC Motors. I dont know if they still have any or not.

I got a set of 4 new enforcers from Mac motors for under $2k (including shipping). I had to go pick them up at a local freight depot to get reasonable shipping. That was over a year ago, not sure of current pricing. Installed w run flats and they run smooth up to highway speeds (got lucky that they didn’t need balancing). I did check carefully the runout of my rims and aligned the heavy spot on the tire (marked on new tires w red or yellow dots, can’t remember which one I used).

Used tires with recent date codes seem like a good deal, I just have a mental hangup on buying used tires and the price difference on current date codes wasn’t that much.

 

[Mogman]

Considering the best price I have found on these tires is the same for 1-2-4 or 5 tires shipped per tire I decided to just get one and see what they looked like.
So here is my first impressions and some specs compared to the BFGs
They are a little more aggressive than the pictures led me to believe which is good and maybe a little taller than the BFGs
So compared to the BFGs
Petlas tread depth, .580, BFG .550
Petlas load range E, load index 133 = 4541lb, BFG load range E load index 127= 3858lb
Both tires have a 10 ply rating (of course this has nothing to do with how many actual plies there are)
Petlas tread 3 poly, 2 steel and 2 nylon, BFG 4 poly, 2 steel and 1 nylon
Petlas side wall 3 poly, BFG 4 poly
So the BFGs may be a little better for the rock guys with a 4 ply sidewall, The Petlas may ride a little smoother, the Petlas has a more aggressive sidewall, but of course nether are good for serious rock work.
The Petlas seem to have a quality build and finish.
Unfortunately I am being pulled in several different directions right now so it may be a month or so before I get finished setting up to measure the rim radial and lateral runout and marking static balance, then get this tire mounted and balanced.

 

[camarossguy2]

Considering the best price I have found on these tires is the same for 1-2-4 or 5 tires shipped per tire I decided to just get one and see what they looked like.
So here is my first impressions and some specs compared to the BFGs
They are a little more aggressive than the pictures led me to believe which is good and maybe a little taller than the BFGs
So compared to the BFGs
Petlas tread depth, .580, BFG .550
Petlas load range E, load index 133 = 4541lb, BFG load range E load index 127= 3858lb
Both tires have a 10 ply rating (of course this has nothing to do with how many actual plies there are)
Petlas tread 3 poly, 2 steel and 2 nylon, BFG 4 poly, 2 steel and 1 nylon
Petlas side wall 3 poly, BFG 4 poly
So the BFGs may be a little better for the rock guys with a 4 ply sidewall, The Petlas may ride a little smoother, the Petlas has a more aggressive sidewall, but of course nether are good for serious rock work.
The Petlas seem to have a quality build and finish.
Unfortunately I am being pulled in several different directions right now so it may be a month or so before I get finished setting up to measure the rim radial and lateral runout and marking static balance, then get this tire mounted and balanced.
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Any updates on the peltas? pictures installed? how well they ride/balance? Thanks

 

[Mogman]

Any updates on the peltas? pictures installed? how well they ride/balance? Thanks

Sorry, still need to check all the rims first, it is spring in S TX so ranch work takes president, that and my knees are only allowing a few hours a day to work.

 

[camarossguy2]

Sorry, still need to check all the rims first, it is spring in S TX so ranch work takes president, that and my knees are only allowing a few hours a day to work.

totally understand, thanks

 

[lindsey97]

I spent several months replacing tires, at one point i used to have 10 rims and tires and was weird. I could never get a confortable ride, suddenly the truck would start jumping or settle down at any given speed. I decided to go non military and i can tell you it's a big difference. I have put probably 7k-8k miles on the Toyo's and no issues. I opted for the balancing beads instead of the sticky weights and i use the truck almost daily and have taken the truck on 200-300 miles trips here in florida. Best swap i ever did.

What load range are the toyo's?

 

[Gcelevator]

What load range are the toyo's?

I have to check in the morning.

 

[Mogman]

I made some progress today.
I had scored seven 24 bolt paired rims from beltfed, today I used a 90 deg taper milling bit to chamfer 4 of the 24 mounting holes on each rim, assembled them with tapered lug nuts and put them on my test rig and measured the radial runout of each rim.
The measurements are 15/15, 30/15, 33/15, 10/20, 40/9, 5/10 and 20/10 thousands of an inch, first number is the inside bead
This was better than any of the few measurements I made on some 24 bolt even rims, one of those that was giving me fits was 100/80
The best I can tell from many searches is that this size steel truck rim should be less than 50 thousands of an inch of radial runout so all seven rims actually fall within that spec.
So I tossed the 40/9 and the 33/15 back on the pile.
I stamped an X on the end of the first stud clockwise of the valve stem, installed the missing studs, 5 of the 7 had the exact same 6 studs missing which I find very odd.
I numbered the halves for reassembly and this afternoon will clean and paint the outside halves and install new valve stems.
I will use tapered lug nuts on the 4 studs that have a taper cut in the outside halves when assembling the wheels then replace them with flanged nuts.
I am short one O ring but have some on order from HPG so I should be able to assemble four wheels this weekend.
Scratch that, I just checked Fedex tracking and the O rings should be here Sat.