Removing lug and budd nuts!

[nickd]

So on the hottest day, today, I decided to address the 90W axle oil leaks on the deuce. Since I removed the rear drive shaft in an effort to prevent front tire scuffing the middle axles started to leak. The lug nuts came off easily with my 1/2" Milwaukee electric impact wrench. The bud nuts however proved to be more difficult (yes, i was turning them in the correct direction for removal). No problem moved to the 24V 3/4" drive impact gun. Nothing would budge. Last resort, pull out the deuce isssue lug wrench and the round steel handle, prop it up on a jack stand and they cracked loose with out too much strain. The rest of the job went as planned.

Just goes to show you you cant replace the basic tools that come with the truck!

 

[acetomatoco]

Loud wrenches are not allowed in my shop.. amen.

 

[acetomatoco]

Budd is a company and their nuts are Budd Nuts...If you had addressed them correctly they would have paid attention. the standard wrench with the 3/4 by 30 hardened handle and a piece of pipe will do the job every time...putting a jack stand under the wrench will hold it level while you jump on the pipe...

 

[oifvet]

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These are for the road. Around the shop, "air" is your friend!

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http://www.alltiresupply.com/p-TR5.html

I do not have this. Kind of expensive. But, maybe someday:

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If you want to shop the site:

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Found this on another thread after I posted:

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[Recovry4x4]

I'm not knocking you guys at all OIFVET and Ace but here in equatorland I'm forced to use the loud wrenches and fast jacks so that I can change a tire before I dehydrate. It's not the 900° that kills you, its the 400% humidity. I can't wait for the 3rd season to get here, right now we are running 2 seasons at once, summer and hurricane. The 3rd season is January.

 

[acetomatoco]

Oh, I understand, here in VT we have three seasons, Winter, Mud, and County Fair...but, if you break the Inner and out Budd Nuts free with the hand tools, first..let soldier #2 do it...then use the speedy noisy ones you will be done sooner...

 

[alphadeltaromeo]

Hmm...I'd venture to say that "soldier #2" is in his avatar picture...I vote for the power tools

 

[Cdub]

Re: RE: Removing lug and budd nuts!

...but, if you break the Inner and out Budd Nuts free with the hand tools, first..let soldier #2 do it...then use the speedy noisy ones you will be done sooner...

I don't have to deal with the bud nuts but only with the 1 1/2" lug nuts. I've found breaking them lose by hand and then using the speedy air gun to zip them off does do a fine job as well.


C'dub

 

[greensix]

RE: Re: RE: Removing lug and budd nuts!

I prefer using the hand lug wrench on installing so they can be changed if a flat happens on the road with a nice coat of anti-seize on threads. in the case that nothing wants to come off I get out the 3/4 air impact at 175psi it will solve the problem.

 

[Preacherboy]

I have a problem, searched for it...this seems to be the best thread to ask it in. ojsdna744 came over and bought some tires from me and brought his torque multiplier wrench to break loose some lug nuts. We got all the lug nuts loose and started on the budd nuts at which point one was extremely difficult to get off. We tried really hard and all the sudden it got really easy.

What happened was surprising, the end of the budd twisted off, not totally, but close...now what steps do I take to get it off?

 

[doghead]

Weld a nut on the thimble. remove. replace both.

 

[Bob H]

I would go with heat, which will expand the lugnut from the stud.
pull the valve stem out of the tire, so the heat doesn't build air pressure. ( this won't help the lug nut, it's just safer)
Jam nuts may work.

 

[DaveP]

it is possible to get a pipe wrench on it. apply heat to the bevel area before you try turning.

 

[Preacherboy]

Thanks guys, my dad said heat it up and apply a pipe wrench; just wanted to hear if anyone else had any other ideas. I will try that and if that doesn't work I'll find someone with a welder and try what dog head said.

 

[tm america]

i would pull the valve core out put the lug nut on it and weld it . let it cool till its not red hot and take it right off .the heat from welding makes it come right off.a pipe wrench will distort the budd nut and make it bind up even more also you will ruin the threads you have left and wont be able to do the nut trick

 

[Preacherboy]

I tried heat and a pipe wrench, still will not budge. Although, I do only have a propane torch; but I've found if you hold it on there long enough it will get red hot just like with a regular torch.

I'll have to try welding it on I guess.

Thanks

 

[davo727]

I got a 42 inch long, 1 inch drive breaker bar off amazon, works great getting my budds off my C7000 (not a deuce but still budds) Was about $107

 

[Preacherboy]

I got a 42 inch long, 1 inch drive breaker bar off amazon, works great getting my budds off my C7000 (not a deuce but still budds) Was about $107

I had my 3/4" drive breaker bar with an 8' pipe on the end and I couldn't budge it. Another guy from the board brought over a torque multiplier and we put the 8' pipe on the end of the breaker bar on that which twisted off the end of the budd nut.

Tried the tires on the other side and bent the 8' pipe trying to get the things off! I guess an impact is the only thing that will work, by the way...it has been soaked in parts blaster several times and I tried heat. I need more tools!

 

[Srjeeper]

Preacherboy,

Don't know what side your working on but there are left and right handed threads on deuce wheel studs.

Just a FYI......just in case.

Good luck and be safe..

 

[davo727]

Yeah, Budds are left hand threads on the left side of the truck.