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[Warthog]

Forgot GP does not allow previews. At GL you should always assume something is wrong.

 

[63foxtrot]

You most likely bought a NTC HMMWV, rode hard put away wet. miles of washboard roads at Fort Irwin.

 

[AceHigh]

A truck that is a few decades old and driven by maybe 50 different twenty year olds is going to have some serious wear and tear. Hope that it all works out for you, OP.

The bids I have placed were all based on scrap value, just in case.

 

[tage]

You most likely bought a NTC HMMWV, rode hard put away wet. miles of washboard roads at Fort Irwin.

You are spot on.

 

[combat32]

I bet I drove that truck, there's your problem If it was an OC truck, I can guarntee it had a hard life!

My pic on the left is me at NTC back around 1999 in the hidden pass when I was an OC with the Scorpions.

And to answer your question, No its not normal for the firewall to flex, bet you have a bad motor mount or transmission or both.

 

[63foxtrot]

Take out your air cleaner, and drop it on the ground or roll it down the driveway. I bet you it's like smoke screen.

 

[m16ty]

My rule of thumb is, never bid on a item a amount over scrap value that you can't afford to loose. I've won big sometimes, other times I've lost. It's just the nature of buying items Uncle Sam deems unserviceable. I've never bid on a HMMWV as they are selling for more than I'm willing to loose.

With that being said, it does seem GP is trying to represent items better than they actually are. File a claim and see how good their "iron clad assurance" is, it's about the only repercussions you have.

 

[tage]

Take out your air cleaner, and drop it on the ground or roll it down the driveway. I bet you it's like smoke screen.

ha I actually did that. Full of sand!!


Thx Tom for confirming the firewall issue!


This is will be a real test to the "IronClad Assurance". I'll keep y'all updated with their final decision.

 

[greenjeepster]

One thing I am concerned with is it listing a 6.5 engine and it actually having a 6.2.

Why would you care? They are both fairly lousy diesel engines, but replacements are plentiful and cheap. Power wise the 6.5 is only marginally better and with an aftermarket turbo and injector pump the 6.2 makes more power than the 6.5.

 

[greenjeepster]

Could you tell me on any of your hmmwv's if the firewall flex is normal with the gas pedal operation?

I am not sure I can comprehend exactly what you are describing?

 

[Retiredwarhorses]

The only picture they show that is under the truck neglects to show this. Whoever took that GP picture saw that, and decided to not represent the product.

Integrity?!

am I missing something? Whats the "real damage?" A dent in the oil pan,dirt, surface rust? If I had a dime for every HMMWV that has a dent in the oil pan, I could retire. You clearly have not seen the trucks from the 99 auctions.
and here is something for any future buyers.....if it's Tan in color, it's beat.
most of these trucks came from NTC...
the mid-west and eastern trucks look very nice in comparison.

i have a frame off restored truck in the shop you could eat off of if you are really picky.

 

[Retiredwarhorses]

Not to hijack this thread But will GP allow you to inspect before bidding

Yes, at certain sites, you need to call them first though to get the site managers schedule and make an appt, that's how I went about it here in calif.

 

[Blackmagic94]

I guess he does not know of the Ft Hood drain the oil pan method lol

 

[my69camaro]

My recent 1990 M998 purchase.

In the auction info it stated truck cranked but would not run. So I figured I'd gamble as all my 1008s and 1009s needed only battery's or glow plugs to start.

Get the thing home. No coolant, I assume it was drained for storage, so I put in 5gal. Put in fresh battery's and sure enough it cranks but no start. Check glow plugs; all 8 are swollen, cracked, or missing chunks. So I buy a new set on ebay. Couple days later I install them. After a few tries it actually fires up. But........ Instantly it blows most all of the coolant out, and there is constant white haze surrounding the truck. Hahaha. Headgasket or crack somewhere I can only assume.

I gambled and didn't exactly win this go around. For my $5250 winning bid Ill accept it. Just looks like my 6bt swap must happen sooner rather than later.

 

[Retiredwarhorses]

My recent 1990 M998 purchase.

In the auction info it stated truck cranked but would not run. So I figured I'd gamble as all my 1008s and 1009s needed only battery's or glow plugs to start.

Get the thing home. No coolant, I assume it was drained for storage, so I put in 5gal. Put in fresh battery's and sure enough it cranks but no start. Check glow plugs; all 8 are swollen, cracked, or missing chunks. So I buy a new set on ebay. Couple days later I install them. After a few tries it actually fires up. But........ Instantly it blows most all of the coolant out, and there is constant white haze surrounding the truck. Hahaha. Headgasket or crack somewhere I can only assume.

I gambled and didn't exactly win this go around. For my $5250 winning bid Ill accept it. Just looks like my 6bt swap must happen sooner rather than later.

did you open a claim for your "iron clad guarentee"?. I know folks who have used it, they have in fact had very good outcomes.

here is the problem as GP, they are a get it to run at all costs...running makes for higher opening bid, 7500.00 as compared to 5k. I am seeing cheap store bought batteries in some of these lower quality trucks, meaning they tinkered with them to get them running...batteries, bad jump starts, starting fluids....all of this equals blown EESS boxes, swollen glow plugs and effed up motors for using starting fluid...NEVER use starting fluids on 6.2,6.5 and 6.5TD's.

 

[my69camaro]

did you open a claim for your "iron clad guarentee"?. I know folks who have used it, they have in fact had very good outcomes.

here is the problem as GP, they are a get it to run at all costs...running makes for higher opening bid, 7500.00 as compared to 5k. I am seeing cheap store bought batteries in some of these lower quality trucks, meaning they tinkered with them to get them running...batteries, bad jump starts, starting fluids....all of this equals blown EESS boxes, swollen glow plugs and effed up motors for using starting fluid...NEVER use starting fluids on 6.2,6.5 and 6.5TD's.

Nah, I figure it said cranks but doesn't run so I get what I get. Which is perfectly fine. I had one dent in the back where it looks like someone hit something while the antenna mount was attached that wasn't mentioned or pictured but I figure a 2x4 and mallet will straighten that just fine. Over all I think its in good used shape for what it is and I'll live. Guys at the storage lot were very helpful (Plainfield IL). Pushed it up on the trailer for me and everything.

I don't think the GP guys are trying to "Hide" anything. Just small staffs running between multiple yards taking pics of a bunch of used old trucks. I'm happy just to have the ability to buy one now.

 

[tage]

Am I missing something? Whats the "real damage?"

The real damage is that it was purposely not disclosed... I feel in a way to draw up more bids then what it would go for compared if a honest listing was portrayed. Legal definition is fraud. But, hey I'm just some pog SOB who blew a wad of cash right?


Some people loose that integrity along the way I gueß.

 

[tage]

I gambled and didn't exactly win this go around. For my $5250 winning bid Ill accept it. Just looks like my 6bt swap must happen sooner rather than later.

See and I would be okay with that as well if I paid your price for the truck... However I'm in about twice of what you paid.

 

[NDT]

I figure a 2x4 and mallet will straighten that just fine.

Good luck with that.

 

[3dAngus]

The best investment ever made in a HMMWV, is not in the cash it cost you, but in the level of pre-screening you put in it.