Behr Paint Jobs- Show me your MV's

[Buffalobwana]

Someone borrowed my airless and seized it up. That happens when you don't bother to clean it after you use it

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

BACKGROUND:
When we first got our Deuce it was a cab and chassis witht he cab being firetruck RED and the frame being black. The bed we bought separately was CARC 3-Color Camo. For a quick fix I simply over-sprayed the red cab with NO surface prep except a quick wash and wipe down - NO Sanding - NO Primer - then I simply applied matching 3-Color Camo using WALMART 99-cent/rattle-can green, black and tan of the red. Some of the red was well-weathered and faded while other areas were somewhat glossy.
Now, after 5-6 years of outdoor exposure 24/7/365 some of the rattle-can paint is thinning and exposing the red underneath. (Pretty good performance I'd say.)

Now we'd like to go ALL GREEN with the BIG WHITE STARS of the Vietnam Era.

QUESTION(S):
What would y'all recommend for prepping the surfaces prior to spray application of the BEHR MARQUEE EXTERIOR #24087 Green paint?? Sanding? Primer? (There's little to no surface rust.)
--Prep over Rattle-can and RED areas??
--Prep of the CARC on the BED and the Side Boards/Troop Seats??

What BEHR shade of WHITE paint would you use for the BIG STARS and Stenciled Lettering?
--Would you first paint the STARS, let cure, then mask them out and apply the GREEN or vice-versa??

Is there anything else I should be asking???

THANKS !
John

 

[randygk]

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Well, after going back and forth between carc and Behr, I went with the Behr. I had done two deuces with carc from Rapco and was happy with the paint and color (1 - tan, 1 forest green).
I tested a spray can of the 383 green from Rapco and didn't like the limey color compared to the Behr 383 green. Used the Federal Std. colors of green, brown, and black. Also like the flat of the Behr, as well as water clean up. I just painted the areas of each color the same color, overlapping a bit. I am happy with the color and will have to see how it holds up.

 

[racing4funn]

one I just printed and nows Im going to sell it because I have another one thats really getting stripped down, color matched Al's liner on the inside and Bear paint exterior matched

 

[tobyS]

one I just printed and nows Im going to sell it because I have another one thats really getting stripped down, color matched Al's liner on the inside and Bear paint exterior matched

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Nice job! It would look great with an S-250 shelter in the back.

 

[AZK9]

... I have a couple questions for the guys painting with the H.F. gravity gun.

1) How to thin it, if any? I've read a lot about Floetrol and H2O. Qty needed of each or just one? Again, I'm going for 24087 semi-gloss Vietnam Era.
2) Air pressure used? The gun has a range of 20-70 PSI. ...

I used the HF spray gun and did not thin the paint at all.
I do not recall the exact pressure I used, but it was likely higher than low.
I remember when I tested it at lower pressure... it tended to 'spit' at times
rather than spray cleanly and evenly.

Hope it helps. Have fun with the gun! I really like mine. Better than my
'higher end' guns!

Remember to post a pic or two when you finish!

 

[Another Ahab]

I used the HF spray gun and did not thin the paint at all.

Hope it helps. Have fun with the gun! I really like mine. Better than my
'higher end' guns!

Does "better" mean easier to use?

 

[AZK9]

Does "better" mean easier to use?

Just in total. It did a nicer job and was very lightweight and easy to use.
I liked it so much... I bought an additional one (for a backup).

 

[Gralmk]

Our M38, Saturday at a Jeep Jam, Blackstone Mass.

 

[Another Ahab]

It looks so tiny, next to all the cousins.

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

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Our M38, Saturday at a Jeep Jam, Blackstone Mass.

It sure looks tiny among it's younger generations.

But let us recognize that that one... yes the little one... stands tall and honorably as the war veteran, one much nearer the GREATEST GENERATION which continues to salute and bring noble recognition to all those who have served.

God bless America!

 

[Lawdog734]

I painted the GMV this weekend using Desert Tan Behr Ultra Premium. I'm very impressed with how the stuff went down - I only had to water it down a little bit. Question for those of you that have done it before - how long do you let it sit before you feel comfortable letting it get rained on? I currently have it parked in the garage to keep any morning condensation or errant rainstorm off of it, but the wife will only let me do that for so long before I start hearing about it......

 

[bigmike]

My understanding is the drying time is pretty quick but the curing time can be 30+ days. I think you'll be fine putting it outside. It'll probably cure quicker in the sun.

 

[tobyS]

Don't rush the initial drying...and consider using Flotrol to slow it down. You end up with a smoother and harder finish ultimately, with better adhesion. I wouldn't use the sun to make it dry faster if I had a choice.

It seems to act like concrete curing.

Some of mine has been rained on the night of putting it on. I noticed streaks that are not there if left for a couple of days. I may be mistaken, but later in the curing, it seems to get harder with rain.

 

[Another Ahab]

My understanding is the drying time is pretty quick but the curing time can be 30+ days. I think you'll be fine putting it outside. It'll probably cure quicker in the sun.

Don't rush the initial drying...and consider using Flotrol to slow it down. You end up with a smoother and harder finish ultimately, with better adhesion. I wouldn't use the sun to make it dry faster if I had a choice.

It seems to act like concrete curing.

Someone here will know better than me, or likely you can just read the product literature:

- But if the curing is anything like that for concrete then moderate conditions (temperature, humidity, etc) are what you want.

Direct sun might lead to overheating, and that might not be the best thing.

 

[Piper Cub]

Definitely want to try to keep it dry and clean for a month or so. I don't have indoor space so all the trailers I've painted have been done under a shade shelter with a bunch of tarps set up to try to protect them. After a couple weeks water doesn't seem to be an issue for me(probably helps that humidity is about a 20 minute event right before and after the rain comes down here). If you need to move it a lot before a month be very careful, I've peeled sheets of paint off accidentally up to 3 weeks after painting.

 

[tobyS]

Definitely want to try to keep it dry and clean for a month or so. I don't have indoor space so all the trailers I've painted have been done under a shade shelter with a bunch of tarps set up to try to protect them. After a couple weeks water doesn't seem to be an issue for me(probably helps that humidity is about a 20 minute event right before and after the rain comes down here). If you need to move it a lot before a month be very careful, I've peeled sheets of paint off accidentally up to 3 weeks after painting.

I haven't experienced that level of adhesion or fragility problem with the Behr over CARC flat paint or red oxide primer.

I used my 817 within a few days and it cleaned up fine (111 loads). Considering I had bricks slide down the side, it took a very small amount of touch up.

 

[wheelspinner]

I painted the GMV this weekend using Desert Tan Behr Ultra Premium. I'm very impressed with how the stuff went down - I only had to water it down a little bit. Question for those of you that have done it before - how long do you let it sit before you feel comfortable letting it get rained on?

You do realize that its house paint right? I don't think too many people put their houses inside a garage when its done being painted.

 

[tobyS]

I painted the GMV this weekend using Desert Tan Behr Ultra Premium.

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What is the FS number for your desert tan? I'll get a sample of desert tan and try it. I'm finding a near match on an M35A3 with sandstone. If anyone wants it, I'll get the FS number.

 

[Piper Cub]

I haven't experienced that level of adhesion or fragility problem with the Behr over CARC flat paint or red oxide primer.

I used my 817 within a few days and it cleaned up fine (111 loads). Considering I had bricks slide down the side, it took a very small amount of touch up.

That's pretty good. The one I had a problem on was over a combination of CARC, red primer, and gray primer. I pressure washed it several times but may have still had something going on with spills on it that I couldn't see. All the others have been successful but I've been really cautious since that one.