Deuce with Cummins 6BT Info thread

[GM-M1008]

Trans seems like a nv4500 or along those lines. Shift pattern is different than a 3052. It's a short shifter with a tight shift pattern

 

[gringeltaube]

So they used the Spicer 3052 transmission....

May I ask how you came to that conclusion?

 

[rustystud]

May I ask how you came to that conclusion?

By the shift pattern, but I was "assuming" they would use regular deuce parts. What year was this truck made ? The NV4500 transmission came out in 1992 and is only rated to 14,500 GVW. Way to low for the deuce. I suppose they could have used a newer Spicer or Eaton or Fuller or who knows what. I need to see some pictures of the transmission to know for sure.

After looking at the picture again I wonder if the last number is an "O" for overdrive or a "5" like I originally thought.

 

[GM-M1008]

I'm not saying it is a nv4500, just seems like it. The truck is titled as a 1992. When I get under it I'll let ya know what it is. I haven't had the time to mess with it much

 

[rustystud]

I'm not saying it is a nv4500, just seems like it. The truck is titled as a 1992. When I get under it I'll let ya know what it is. I haven't had the time to mess with it much

If this transmission is really an overdrive unit and the transfer-case is in the same location as our regular deuces and the engine seems to be in the same location, then this transmission could be a great replacement for our Spicer 3053 ! As everyone knows it is the limited space our deuce has that determines what transmissions we can use.
Please get pictures of this transmission !

 

[gentrysgarage]

I can help you with a picture of an NV4500 which is an OK transmission for light trucks, but I will call your attention to the replacement, the black one. Downfalls of the NV are carbon fiber sychros that require special oil and the original mainshaft spins 5th gear off.

 

[GM-M1008]

I crawled under it today, found the tag. It's a zf trans

 

[peashooter]

I crawled under it today, found the tag. It's a zf trans

Thanks for looking. Any idea on which model it is?

 

[rustystud]

I crawled under it today, found the tag. It's a zf trans

Interesting, a German transmission in a American deuce. Don't get me wrong ZF makes great transmissions ! I just find it funny is all.

 

[Jeepsinker]

I had wondered if any of these trucks survived the torch or the exporters... Glad to see one around still.

 

[Jeepsinker]

Are you sure that isn't an 8.3l Cummins in there? It sure looks like it with the turbo slung high like it is. I like that it is intercooled too. I didn't think there was room for an intercooler with stock sheet metal and grill on these trucks.

 

[Sephirothq]

I have an M36E3 with similar upgrades, I wish I have the 5.9 cummins in mine, but it has a Cat 3116. It does have the ZF 5 speed manual trans. I am hoping to bob the truck this summer.

 

[cattlerepairman]

Could you post a part number from that 5 speed tranny, please? The Ford 7.3 Powerstrokes could be had with a ZF 5-speed, if I am not mistaken. Probably not the same tranny.

 

[59apache]

The c8.3 is as long as a Multiflop.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/q1vl3e8z8axecnv/IMG-20150922-WA0001.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ftxtfd9voet85dw/20150917_165814.jpg?dl=0


compare the oilpan flanges...

with the shorter B5.9 you have enough room for an intercooler.

 

[Jeepsinker]

Good to know. The 5.9 can be turned up quite a bit more when equipped with an intercooler.

 

[mhassett]

Very Interesting thread.

 

[onemanarmy]

I've learned something new today.

 

[Seth_O]

I had no idea there was a gov't 6bt deuce. Very cool creature, thanks for sharing.

 

[drivebymashing]

Wow I almost bought a dodge pickup with a cummins to use the engine for my deuce. I wish I had now I do enjoy dumping engine oil in the fuel tank though....

 

[Wildchild467]

I wonder what the rear motor mounts look like. I believe bell housings have SAE mounts that have 4 bolts/studs, then the "legs" mount to those to hang the engine in. If that was the case that somebody wanted to put a 6BT or other engine in a deuce, would they use the cummins bell housing with deuce mounts? Post a picture of the rear motor mounts if you can please and thank you.