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what year did the cummins 5.9 12 valve start appearing in international medium duty trucks?
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no, they're not. only in F650/750's or F600-800's (older).Yes they are also in the some F-550
tough to say. best i can find is that they didn't start using the small Cummins until '91. and in '85, they had the 6.9, the dt360, and the dt466 as in-house options. with those options (and the latter two are arguably as good if not better than the 5.9 or 8.3 cummins), it doesn't make any sense for that to be a factory configuration.so if i had a medium duty international from 85 with a ten speed and its a cummins what would it be?
that's about all i could find; seems any bus pre-'90 had the 6.9 or dt360, few w/ the 466. after, most were 7.3 and a good bunch were 5.9.Cummins 5.9 History
An 85 International could have a couple different engines, usually their own (DT series) but some had 5.9 Cummins. The Cummins was somewhat popular in International school buses, which is probably the cheapest source for a 5.9/Allison combo. ... From an internet search, about all I could find for '85 were the DT engines, but I do remember a lot of buses coming with the Cummins, just not sure on the exact years. ...
I had 98 with one in it I think it was first year of the pick-up platform see if i can scan the pick it was factory with 6 speedno, they're not. only in F650/750's or F600-800's (older).
to answer the posted question, i want to say (w/out certain ascertation) mid to early 90's....?
Wow, I did not even know that Deutz Diesels were used in North America outside of gensets. They are indeed very good engines with a long history of military use as well. We had an aircooled 177 hp six cylinder in our ladder truck....a screamer...unbelievably loud (no water jacket) but dependable and no issues in 20 years (which says much for an engine that is cold-started and redlined all the time).The Deutz is a decent diesel, I'd put the 6 cyl. liquid-cooled on par with a 5.9 Cummins size, weight, and power wise (just an estimate from owning two). If you can find Iveco box trucks, they usually have the Deutz. I've bought two, both in decent shape. One was $1100 and had 39k miles on it, the other had a couple hundred thousand and I paid $800. Both 5-speeds. Pretty good fuel mileage as well, the $800 one had a short 12-foot box and got a little over 20 mpg. Not bad for a cabover box truck with the frontal shape of a brick wall.
With factory adapters I know you can locate SAE bellhousings and Chrysler (the autos in an Iveco were Chryslers).
Jim
is that with the mounts etc to fit into an m35? Are they overdrive allisons?I can get you an Detroit with an Allison tranny for about $1800.00 + freight. A guy I know who has quite a few of them, he removed them from the truck before parting them.
No, those are all made by International.The diesel engine in most Ford F250/350 are cummins small blocks or so I been led to believe. I see These Fords at the big truck center such as IH and they are doing engine work. I don't know if the mounts are included with the engines, I would have to check.
yes - someone has lied to you. this statement probably came right after the statement that "Ford owns Cummins".The diesel engine in most Ford F250/350 are cummins small blocks or so I been led to believe. ....