This may sound strange coming from me, but when I got my first computer, it was a ATARI 1200, tv hook up and the all nine yards, got it because I was in model railroading and ran prototype operation, I could not find any make up forms, operation forms, trouble forms (hot boxs, ect.), ect., so I tought myself atari basic so I could program the random make up and ect. forms, then when I moved to the top of the line TANDY 386 with it's own moniter, I learned micosoft basic. Now I just push keys, if things do not work, I ask my wife for HELP,